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GONZALES: Motion to deny. Do I have a second? <br /> <br />ONO: Second. <br /> <br />GONZALES: A motion to deny by Commissioner Ishibashi, second by Commissioner Ono. <br />Okay, Commissioners, discussion. Here’s our—here’s, if you have something to say, to address <br />anyone, to address each other, this is our chance. <br /> <br />ISHIBASHI: Brother Chair. <br /> <br />GONZALES: Mr. Ishibashi. <br /> <br />ISHIBASHI: Thank you. Very contentious issue so I just make a couple, couple comments. <br /> <br />The glory of God is the intelligence of man. Educating our students was never an issue on this. <br />We all agree on that so that’s the common ground on, on this permit here. I hope as we move on <br />after this that we can mend the fences. There’s a lot of accusations going on between both sides, <br />and I still don’t think it’s gonna end any time soon, but I think that the corrections has to be <br />made, so I agree with our hearing officer’s findings. We decided to go out and hire a hearings <br />officer to make the decision and investigation for us as a commission. And, I will stand by her, <br />her decision, based on what is written. I’m concerned with the wastewater. The septic system, <br />and going into the Caves, and all of that is unclear. And we had insufficient supply of water for <br />the students and faculty. That’s very important. That issue I had was on the traffic, too, so—and <br />again, if it’s---the report is good enough for us, but not good for the Land Board, then we gotta <br />update that traffic studies also. So, I agree with the hearings officer’s findings on this. <br /> <br />GONZALES: Thank you, Chairman Ishibashi. Any other discussion? I’d like to say a couple <br />things. I—this is hard for all of us. Educating our children is a big job, and we appreciate it. <br />My son actually graduated from a charter school, and if it wasn’t for that charter school, he <br />probably wouldn’t have turned out like he did. He turned our pretty good. So, it’s hard either <br />way. I mean, we have a community here that feels impacted, we have children that need to be <br />taught. I just hope however this turns out, in the end, we can all work together and come up with <br />you know, a solution where our community is happy, our children get taught. You’re all good <br />people. All of you. <br /> <br />HEAUKULANI: I start getting uncomfortable when we start getting away from the four corners <br />of our governing documents. The question for me in this proceeding was whether the proposed <br />use is an unusual and reasonable use of the land situated within the Agricultural District. The <br />idea that it’s unusual isn’t disputed. I guess so, when I get down to it, my real issue was whether <br />this is a reasonable use. And not reasonable use of Kaūmana land or not reasonable use of South <br />Hilo land, but reasonable use of land in the Agricultural District. I start getting concerned when <br />we start adding to that phrase, and when we start making that definition mean that proposed use <br />has to or has to not specifically service the needs of the immediate community. I am very <br />troubled by that though reasonable minds can differ on this so I just think we need to be aware of <br />the slippery slope when we start adding to our governing rules and statutory parameters. <br /> <br />27 <br />EXHIBIT F <br /> <br /> <br />