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called and said that they were being transferred and they wouldn’t be able to do it. They were
<br />going to have to, they were going to have to get rid of their house.
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<br />And then, I went back to the Community Association again, and they said, well, what about
<br />Sugarcane Lane. I got a piece of property and my daughter’s got a vacant lot next to it. Why
<br />don’t you put it there? So, I said okay, well let’s ahead and do that. So, I went and did a
<br />feasibility report on that. And, it was pretty far out of the search area, though, so I didn’t know if
<br />it would work, but I did put the feasibility report in. And then, also, I started driving around. I
<br />tried calling the big lots. I look at that first actually. I kind of need to go back a little bit. When
<br />I first get these things, I pull up the tmk map and immediately I start looking at let’s try to find
<br />big parcels. And, I did try to contact some people to the—let me get my bearings as far as the—
<br />right, I did try to, it’s a kind of west, west of the current location. There’s four or five kind of
<br />larger parcels. I tried to contact them. I could not either contact them, or they weren’t willing to
<br />work with us.
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<br />And, so, I was driving down the street, and I saw these lots for sale. And, I looked them up on
<br />the MLS—I’m a member. And they told me that you know that they seemed to be very
<br />inexpensive so I talked to Verizon Wireless about whether or not they would be willing to
<br />purchase these lots, and so we entered into an option to purchase contingent on zoning approval.
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<br />NISHIMOTO: So, you would say that you’re, you, you made genuine efforts to explore
<br />alternative options before selecting the proposed site?
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<br />MARTIN: Yes, I’ll even go further to say that if we cannot get this approved, I don’t know
<br />where else we could put this.
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<br />NISHIMOTO: Okay, now what factors render the subject site optimal.
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<br />MARTIN: Well, we look for utilities. Utilities are important. We look for topography
<br />surrounding topography. We look for—we try to actually not put it too close to existing
<br />structures. However, that’s not altogether a criteria of ours.
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<br />NISHIMOTO: And, I want to address some of the objector’s concerns. For example, Mr. and
<br />Mrs. Shinsato—our concern that the tower may fall and cause injury in the residential area. Can
<br />you explain to us what you know about tower foundation?
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<br />MARTIN: Yeah, I did try to get a structural engineer here to explain this better than me but I
<br />couldn’t get anybody that had time for us. So, I tried to learn as much as I could about it. I
<br />talked to an engineer right here in Hilo. I, an engineer in Honolulu. And what I can tell you is
<br />that when we get to that stage, we, in order to design that tower foundation, we do a geonet,
<br />geotechnical sample where they take a drill rig out and then they dig one or two inch hole down
<br />into the soil, and then they take that in and they analyze it, and then try to figure out, you know,
<br />how, what we need to do to design the tower. So, I, this is really, not about this tower. We don’t
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