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<br />Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br />Minutes – May 19, 2014 <br />A.: Mr. Brown is not an expert on eminent domain and would refer to an <br />attorney, but basically there has to be a pretty significant public need to require it. <br /> <br />C. Schlueter (Corp Counsel): Agreed with that opinion that eminent domain is <br />preserve for the instances where public interest is served over the common <br />individual goal of a person. In his experience, it’s very unusual for that to occur <br />and there are a lot of litigations in different states and he has not seen it in <br />Hawaii, but it makes big news in certain jurisdictions where eminent domain <br />occurs. <br /> <br />Mr. Brown said, if you wanted to use eminent domain as the tool for acquiring <br />public access and the landowner challenges that – you might end up buying a <br />piece of right-of-way that’s only worth $10,000 dollars but it’ll probably cost you <br />$200,000 dollars to get it by the time you get it fighting the legal battles. <br /> <br />Q.: Chapter 34 would be used to gain public access to the mountain - was used <br />only three times in the last 10 years, is that a correct statement? <br /> <br />A.: Mr. Brown answered, approximately yes to two and could not recall the name <br />of third one. <br /> <br />Q.: Have there been lots or acreage that have been divided six times or six lots <br />that the county has chosen not to get public access? <br /> <br />A.: Mr. Brown answered, not that he is aware of. Close tabs were not kept. He <br />could not name an instance where it had happened. <br /> <br />Q.: Is this “Chapter 34” good enough to go forward in the future to ensure that <br />when large landowners who border public property subdivide that the public can <br />get access after that subdivision? And as ranch land or farm land or sugar land <br />continues to be sold and subdivided – it’s likely that it’s gonna border some <br />public land that’s landlocked now. <br />What is it that you would recommend for us to do to ensure that when someone <br />comes in to the planning department and says “I want to subdivide” that we get <br />public access? Is what’s on the books good enough? <br /> <br />A.: Mr. Brown said, the short answer to that question in my opinion, is “yes” and <br />“no.” Chapter 34 is adequate up to a certain point is that what we lack in Hawaii <br />County and I think it’s been a serious lacking in both shoreline and mountain <br />accesses – is a lack of a public access planner – a program for this county. It’s <br />been hit and miss, sporadic, inconsistent, we can be very aggressive about <br />acquiring accesses under one administration and very lax about it under another <br />and not necessarily due to whoever happens to be mayor at a given point in time <br />or who might be on the Council at any given point in time – though just by <br />prevailing attitudes within the bureaucracy itself, given the political climate, and <br />the economy – that if we don’t have a comprehensive plan that lays out specific <br /> 4 <br /> <br />