2014-03-24 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes – March 24, 2014 it’s any good but – they’re beginning to have to admit that a lot of this stuff is not accurate. Chair Sylvester: And I’d like to add to that – I’ve been talking to a friend of mine in the Hawaiian community active in things and they say that regardless of that – the pig size or whatever – you know back even if they raised them in corrals hundreds of years ago – they were the tenants of the land and they had lands that they could do that – but they don’t have that anymore – so pigs they have to go to the forest to still do that – not everyone can raise pigs anymore – obviously – so for a cultural person or native Hawaiian person where are they gonna get the pig now. They don’t have a stone corral they can go and get one for a ceremony or whatever – that land is taken away whatever – I don’t want to get into all that but – so forest is where they are still able to do that and I think that’s st a legitimate claim because they are living in the 21 century, they don’t have to be living like they did 500 years ago or whatever – they can still have their culture and traditions but have modern techniques – hunters and gathers and so forth… T. Lodge: Well I actually, I think that we shouldn’t be spending all night on this thing but they did let pigs loose into the forest and they just wandered off \[unclear\] but they’re saying that the pigs, though, the fact that we had small pigs is not genetic – it’s their diet. You know they were feeding them ulu and sweet potato and coconut and they weren’t getting any protein. And so that’s why they were small. And the other thing too, about archaeologically speaking, at these digs at these sites that they get – when they killed the pigs – they generally killed younger pigs and so that’s where all the archaeological stuff is coming from – from younger pigs – not from full grown pigs. So… (Discussion) W. Camara: Senate bill. That’s the one that had – that is the DLNR’s budget package – that one is where the 750,000 for game management quote unquote… Chair Sylvester: Remember last month we talked about that comprehensive game management that DLNR was working on the 750,000 that they were supposed to get for that… W. Camara: But that is - apparently has since been removed – they removed that 750,000 from that funding. But in talking with Jordan and Rep. Evans – they seem to think that we should continue to support it – and in the hopes that by the time the session is over it’s gonna be back in there again. You know, when you put in your support testimony you need to support the 750,000 for game management specifically, you know, because it’s got all kinds of stuff, there’s the $11 million for the watershed that’s in there too and apparently that got taken out. But according to Jordan they did that last year and then by the end of the session 6