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TANAKA: Also, with regards to the, obviously, it seems that erosion is a main concern for the <br />Planning Commission, or the Planning Department, and 205A, and we can respect that. However, <br />the makai wall is the fixed shoreline and, by definition of the fixed shoreline, erosion is typically <br />curved by the fixed shoreline. Our swimming pool would be mauka of the fixed shoreline and not <br />be fixing the shoreline even further. This evidence of these boulders coming over, it’s hard to say <br />where those came from. It’s a possibility it came from the shelf. They could have already been on <br />property. In addition to that, if that was a concern, those are on the private property of the owner, <br />right? The International Building Code, the new IRC Residential Code that the Building <br />Department administers and enforces, require security fences around swimming pools, and those <br />security fences with their standards of four-inch posts, excuse me, gaps would definitely disallow <br />boulders of this nature. And in an event that any rock of some sort were to come in, that would be <br />on the responsibility of the owner. And as I mentioned, Jim Robinson is a fulltime owner there that <br />addressing these types of issues would be immediate as opposed to a rental condition where that <br />could be sitting for a long time and not addressed. <br /> <br />HOSMER: Also, I think the issue of the sand being against the wall, I think that’s a variable issue <br />in that that can change. Whenever you walk a shoreline, it changes almost every day depending on <br />circumstances. And I think just one picture doesn’t show you really what’s occurred through the <br />years. That sand could have been away from the wall a month ago, and then come back up against <br />the wall. So I just would like to see a series of how really the sand has, went against the wall, <br />consistently building up. And that to me is they are just showing a onetime circumstance. <br /> <br />BEAUDET: Thank you for your comments. Director. <br /> <br />KANUHA: Let me see, I don’t know how I’m going to say this. I don’t know where you folks <br />were in 1984, but I negotiated this public access settlement for this property back then. And the <br />reason the public access was determined that far back was because the certified shoreline was a lot <br />farther makai and we thought there was going to be a significant, you know, it will, there was just a <br />lot of room to accommodate for the shoreline processes, okay. So here we are, what, 30 years later, <br />the shoreline is up on the wall itself, which was only supposed to be for public access. You know, <br />there is all these other processes that are occurring. So, that, yeah, I’m just kind of giving you my <br />perspective of the way I’ve been with this project, yeah. And that’s not the sole basis, I mean staff <br />and I discuss how we are going to handle this because it’s a, you know, it’s a long-term issue for all <br />coastal properties, right, all around Hawaii, all of the, up and down the West Coast, East Coast, any <br />kind of island situations. And so I think we, from a long-term perspective, we are trying to <br />reconcile ourselves with how we balance, you know, the situation up. But again, I’m just giving <br />you some perspective of my experience from being there at the beginning and thinking there was <br />going to be a lot, you know, it was, the access itself would have been significantly set back, you <br />know, that was in 1984, you know. Fast-forward to today, and we have sand and stuff. And <br />granted the way the situation is down at Kona Bay Estates, certain properties don’t have this kind of <br />effects; it just depends which way the swell comes in, where the walls are in relation to, you know, <br />other properties and, you know, other these natural effects. Back in ’84 we tried to address those as <br />best as we could and, you know, again, fast-forward 30 years, and unfortunately we have this kind <br />of a situation. <br /> <br />TANAKA: Thank you for the input. <br /> <br />BEAUDET: So I’d like to just point out, you know, as far as what is considered, what needs to be <br />considered by the Commission, is not, I think you brought up specifically the erosion issue, but <br />6 <br />EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />