2014-10-27 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes —October 27, 2014 information as to the effectiveness of that because he has to use good science. And so if any of you guys have information about the utility of guzzlers — you should kind of get together and go and see the guy together. I think, you know, when we talk about moving the animals out of PTA it means that DOFAW has to be involved in that because if you move them out of PTA—where are you going to move them? So I would hope that DOFAW is very much a part of that. And that's what I mean about sitting down talking story with each other. Comes down to, for me, resource management that's my focus. So if you want to talk to me you've got to talk in that language. Thank you. W. Camara: So did he —with that 1,200 head — did he say which areas that was in? Was it only 22 and 23? That's a lot of animals... And was 22 and 23 already eradicated a couple years ago? As far as I know, I think it was. Chair Lodge: I couldn't tell you... W. Camara: OK. D. Yoshina: I'd like to make a clarification. You know he tried to clarify for us that while he is the commander of PTA— the people who really did the eradication was the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and he, you know, he kinda told us that U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service asked if they could do aerial eradication and he told them no. So, you now, if you guys have visually seen aerial eradication — I think the guys we have to talk to would be the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service guys, you know, it's that kind of bureaucracy or bureaucratic games that go on that you've to deal with. So while it's easy to blame PTA and maybe, maybe he was responsible, but I think you have to be real careful about who you blame — so again — let's work from facts and let's try and get to the bottom of the story. I think that would be helpful. Chair Lodge: My personal opinion or position on this if he extended an offer to the hunters. I think that in order to see if this is going to be real or not and if we're gonna be able to actually have some sort of sustainable hunting program up on Pohakuloa — that we accept his offer and see where they go with that. You know, it may be an opportunity — it may just be something that, you know, who knows — but we won't know if we don't take that opportunity to work with them. W. Camara: I guess my point was that I'm not pointing a finger at the colonel but this kinda something that happens every 2 years — every time the colonel changes over we end up having an eradication up there and you know it may be because of the little bit of—the new guy coming in so he doesn't know what's been happening and what has happened in the past— but it seems that every 2 years when they trade out we go through this whole 23