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IKEDA: No, I appreciate what you’re doing because you’re clearing up some misunderstanding <br />that I have, and to me, it’s important. <br /> <br />GAMBLE, M.: Okay, well then I’ll finish with the acc—or the drainage easement, and that’s the <br />last thing. <br /> <br />In 2000, yeah, in 2000, the Highways Division did not have a permit process in place for doing <br />improvements. They had copies of, of the plan, and again they signed off on us to get our <br />certificate of occupancy. Now, some years ago, I only found out about this late yesterday, and I <br />haven’t had a chance to check my files, I’m gonna guess four, five years ago, we had a visit from <br />the folks in Honolulu from the division of Highways because again Mr. Parisi had made a <br />complaint about the drainage easement. They looked at the site and attempted to cite us for a <br />violation at the point where there’s a, there’s a drainage culvert underneath the highway that <br />empties out into a ditch along the side of the highway, and then it goes into a culvert that <br />eventually goes down to the cliff. That culvert that it has to go into is installed higher than the <br />culvert that comes underneath the highway and, thus, the highway culvert is filling with sediment <br />and water backs up. So, they attempted to cite us for that at which time we informed them that, <br />that was not actually our property. That is Mr. Parisi’s property. <br /> <br />So, I don’t know how that was resolved. At that point, they did ask us again, did you guys do a <br />permit for that, for the improvement that you did, and we said well, there wasn’t a permit process <br />at that time. They contacted our architect, Neil Erickson, and he said, he reaffirmed, there <br />wasn’t a permit process at the time. If you guys have one now, please send us the application, <br />and we’ll do it because we’ve sent you the drawings and everything. And, again, that has <br />resulted in no action. <br /> <br />So, for our part, we’ve tried to do what we’re supposed to do, but to some extent, we’re being <br />held responsible for people who don’t take notes and don’t keep a clear record of what’s <br />happened. So, other than that, I’ll leave it there, if you have other questions, okay? <br /> <br />MIYASATO: Thank you. Commissioners, any other questions? Okay, if not, I just have a <br />comment, yeah, you know, you made—getting back to the issue here of compliance and <br />noncompliance. I guess you made reference to requesting a definition, yeah, from the <br />Department on a community or public meeting. And, you made mention of sending them a <br />definition since one wasn’t I guess sent to you or one wasn’t explained. And, it’s my only--it’s <br />just a comment, yeah, but my comment is you know, now with computers, if you was to Google <br />community meeting, public meeting, you’ll probably get like about 200-250 results, and you can <br />go, I could go through that and find a definition to suit my result that I want at the end, yeah? <br />Being negative—you know, I’m sure you found the result justifying having the sale and other <br />activities there, but I could just go down the same web page and find a definition opposing <br />community meeting and public meeting as to the activities that you’re holding there. So, I think <br />that—you know, I’ve read your definition, and I guess for me, it’s just more of the, what was the <br />initial intent, yeah, when you applied for your application. And, when I read the minutes of the <br />meeting that you had, you know, none of that was clearly stated. So, I guess that’s what I <br />wanted to hear more of in your presentation, yeah. But, that’s just a comment. Thank you. <br /> <br />9 <br />EXHIBIT C <br /> <br /> <br />