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Mr. Balsis: Okay. Any questions? <br /> Mr. Adams: We still need a reason why would you like it to be closed. <br /> Mr. Balsis: I have a feeling I know the reason, but I can't say. <br /> Ms. Bautista: I had no objection. It was I thought it was easier to do it in a <br /> closed hearing. <br /> Mr. Henricks: We really prefer it to be open because if there's nothing to hide but <br /> some reason that's personal. <br /> Ms. Bautista: No. I have no personal reason as to why it should be closed. I <br /> thought it would be open. So if you want to invite the people in, I <br /> have no problem. <br /> Mr. Henricks: Sometimes there's a conflict with their employer something like <br /> that they didn't want the employer involved something like that. <br /> Thing like that could occur. Sometimes, they're not looking at <br /> joining or going into and haven't done yet but don't want to <br /> disclose that yet. You know what I'm saying. So for those reasons <br /> they would be willing to close it. Anything else we wouldn't. <br /> Mr. Adams: Again, our rules require that we have a reason for it being closed. <br /> Ms. Bautista: I'm sorry. If you want to bring them in that's fine. <br /> Mr. Adams: Just means probably nobody will come in. Just means that it's an <br /> open hearing. <br /> MS. Bautista: That's fine. <br /> Mr. Adams: Note for the record that the closed hearing request was removed by <br /> the petitioner. <br /> Mr. Balsis: So noted that the request for a closed hearing was withdrawn. This <br /> is an open hearing and the petitioner is Rose Bautista. An <br /> Immigration Specialist for the County of Hawai`i. For the record, <br /> I just want to note that I personally know Rose Bautista. I am not <br /> going to recuse myself because I believe that I can be objective in <br /> the discussion and making of the decision. Ms. Bautista, please <br /> discuss why you wanted to confer with the Board of Ethics. <br /> Ms. Bautista: First of all, thank you for allowing me this opportunity. Just a little <br /> background, I have been the County Information Specialist since <br /> 2001. In that capacity, basically I provide immigration <br /> information to the constituents of Hawai`i County. I have nothing <br /> to do with being an attorney. However, my profession is that of <br /> being an immigration attorney. About thirteen years ago, I decided <br />