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guide them okay you get your taxes, you get your letter of <br /> employment this is what you do. They'll fill it out and then I will <br /> go over it to check to make sure it's filled out completely. I mean <br /> that's just in a nutshell but basically I try to separate. I don't, <br /> people know that I will not and do not give legal advice. I do not <br /> like to use the word in my office. I give information so people <br /> understand that I'm not there to give anyone legal advice. <br /> Mr. Balsis: I'd like to give an example. This not in support of Ms. Bautista. <br /> It's my personal experience. My wife was filling out her petition <br /> to become a U.S citizen. She'd already been here and all those <br /> things. I did get the form from Ms. Bautista and she looked it over <br /> for completeness. She gave no opinion though as to the <br /> correctness, so she did not answer that or give legal advice on it. <br /> Mr. Adams: So it will be a surprise to the judge, but I'm not sure I completely <br /> agree with him that there isn't a part of the Code that is effected <br /> here. I know you're surprised. When I look at, I think that when <br /> we look at the two elements of the Code that you talked about <br /> which was 2-83(b) (1-5). I think I'm okay with that, you're not <br /> trying to do anything with that that I'm aware here. You've stated <br /> that your work if it corresponds to what you've identified in this <br /> document which becomes part of the record. I don't think there's <br /> an issue with that. 2-84(a)(2) is where I think we just need to <br /> make sure that we are not giving permission, but we are making <br /> sure that as we look at your situation that you're not in a problem <br /> situation there. So that is no officer or employee shall undertake <br /> any official action directly affecting a private undertaking in which <br /> the officer or employee engages legal counsel, advise or consult a <br /> representative or other agency capacity. I think that comes back to <br /> my question about the ability to make sure that there is a wall <br /> between your work with anybody that comes into your office. In <br /> the County and your work as an attorney for clients in U.S. <br /> immigration law situations. I'm not completely comfortable. I'd <br /> like to be completely comfortable that there is some type of wall <br /> between those two populations. You do understand what I'm <br /> saying there? <br /> Ms. Bautista: Right. I thought I was making it easy for everyone including <br /> myself where I will not represent anyone who comes in my office <br /> especially those from Hawai`i County. I've kept it away for <br /> thirteen years and that's why I chose not to practice. I didn't want <br /> that appearance of impropriety. <br /> Mr. Adams: So where do the clients for your law practice come from? <br />