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Mr. Yoshimoto: Right. This is just an investigation today to determine what we <br /> want to do further from this point on right. <br /> Mr. Adams: We have essentially three options. One, we can dismiss for a <br /> variety of reasons if we decide to. We can decide that we want to <br /> move forward into an informal hearing. Or we can decide that we <br /> want to go to a formal hearing. <br /> Mr. Goodenow: Right. <br /> Mr. Adams: As I take a look at this,part of what I wanted to understand is a <br /> part of this was. Was there when I look at this in subsection H, the <br /> penalty phase of this, the punishment phase if you will. Punitive I <br /> guess is the correct phrase is "Any person who willfully fails to file <br /> any statement or report required by this section or willfully files a <br /> statement or report containing false information or material <br /> omission of any fact, who engages in activities prohibited by this <br /> section, or fails to provide any information required by this section <br /> shall be guilty of a petty misdemeanor." If I'm reading correctly <br /> Counsel, that's the phrase that's the section that is important here <br /> and I go from there and I take look at willfully. I'm not on the <br /> basis of what I'm hearing here and frankly in what I heard from the <br /> previous petitioner in 2015-01. That was never indicated to me <br /> that willful was the standard that had be met in anything that I've <br /> seen. It would be, I am interested in seeing the statement of <br /> expenditures. It's apparent to me that this is an oversight not a <br /> conscious decision not to register as a lobbyist for the purposes of <br /> doing it. Once they decided it was important to register, they in <br /> fact did register. <br /> Mr. Goodenow: My feeling I'll lay it out here is that I almost feel maybe we should <br /> dismiss it though I appreciate the information that you've asked <br /> for. My only other concern is the person, petitioner if they're here <br /> or they have anything to say or do they have further information <br /> like the length of meeting time or anything right that might be <br /> relevant. <br /> Mr. Adams: The background on this is that. <br /> Ms. Kahakalau: I wanted to explain that the original petition was really a petition <br /> against Council member Kanuha. Not specifically against <br /> Tobacco Free and we at our last meeting decided to do a separate <br /> investigation or at least a resolution that would authorize us to <br />