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KAY: Komo. Yeah, so this is an active coffee farm here. This was that section that was rezoned <br />back in 2004 to Family Agricultural-3 acres, and they went through and subdivided into two parcels <br />as well. <br /> <br />CHURCH: Okay, thank you. It’s cited that “Most of Kona’s coffee is grown on five- to ten-acre <br />parcels in what is referred to as the Kona Coffee Belt,” and then as a matter of policy, “Important <br />Agricultural Lands shall not be rezoned to parcels that are too small ….” What is too small? Is this <br />a subjective or objective judgment? <br /> <br />KAY: Well, so it’s something that, obviously, different types of agriculture have, you know, <br />different economically viable units. Because this is in the Kona Coffee Belt, I went back and <br />looked at some of the different studies that were available on lot size or average farm size for Kona <br />coffee farms. There was a study, I looked at a study from the Department of Agriculture, a study <br />from CTAHR, and then the County back in 2012 did a food self-sustainability study, and all of <br />those studies basically showed that the trends for coffee farms in the Kona area are getting larger <br />between five and ten acres. <br /> <br />CHURCH: Right, so this might be on the small side, is that correct? <br /> <br />KAY: Yeah --. <br /> <br />CHURCH: Okay. <br /> <br />KAY: -- I believe the CTAHR study said most small farms are roughly 1.67 acres and under <br />10,000 dollars in sales. And according to, I think it’s the federal Department of Agriculture, those <br />aren’t considered commercial farms; they are just considered, and so anything above 10,000 dollars <br />a year in sales are considered commercial, and those tend to be on the larger side, roughly six acres <br />or larger. <br /> <br />CHURCH: You know, it’s also cited that “a single-family dwelling located on and used in <br />connection with a farm … or where agricultural activity provides income to the family ….” So the <br />fact that this application was for single-family homes is something which is by policy not <br />supported. Suppose the application did not say that at all, suppose that the application simply said I <br />want to subdivide the property so that my daughter can have an independent commercial <br />agricultural operation, would that have affected the way you review this whole thing? <br /> <br />KAY: I imagine so, yeah. I mean we look at the application --. <br /> <br />CHURCH: Is it possible that somebody could reapply with that? <br /> <br />KAY: I suspect, yeah, certainly we can take a look at --. <br /> <br />CHURCH: All right, thank you. <br /> <br />KAY: -- commercial operation. <br /> <br />4 <br />EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />