2015-05-13 Regular Session Minutes Board of Ethics

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to do so. This morning aside from some acknowledgment of the good things he's done. A lot of the comments that were pejorative went beyond I think the Pcard I think. As indicated you know when his family was attacked and when other matters seemed to be irrelevant to the issues at hand. Some of speculations from what went on with respect to the particulars of the mis-use and I won't call it miss use of the Pcard. In the sense that timely disclosures were not made perhaps or payment was not made immediately upon some of the expenditures that pays the Pcard. Some of the true based upon my investigation. I'm not here this morning to address those things. People talk about their own experiences. I too am a veteran, in the sixty's (60's) I served our country. I was surprised at what heard and I strongly disagree with some of the representations made with respect to Mayor Kenoi. I will say this that if you please, in conducting your investigation as far as you will, please give us an opportunity at least to review what it is that you request an opportunity to respond. Ms. Kahakalau: Thank you. Mr. Adams: Our rules do require twenty (20) days. Ms. Kahakalau: Mr. De Lima? Mr. De Lima: Thank you. My client would like to the proceeding to be open. The bottom line again is there needs to be prima facie showing that someone has in other words. You shouldn't be proceeding with Ms. Sako unless there's a prima facie showing that she's involved in some way, somehow. In other words, you don't do an investigation to determine whether there's evidence just because someone says I want to name her too because I think somebody should be terminated which is in essence the petition. There needs to be a basis for it. I know you need three (3)votes in order to dismiss because you only have three (3) members right now. To me she should be dismissed, she shouldn't have to be entwined in this. In terms of your specific question, it should be open. Now, in terms of requesting records to be frank if you defer, you should be deferring. You shouldn't be doing anything other than deferring because Mr. Luke points out. When there's a criminal investigation, the Attorney General issues subpoenas. Subpoenas make specific requests. Now, if we knew what was being subpoenaed, you basically know the thinking of their