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the brother, and the brother, as the staff had pointed out, is an accomplished chef, and so he wants to <br />do his, you know, farm-to-market type of agricultural activities on his property. But, again, the <br />concept behind having, you know, the mauka and makai portion is largely to accommodate the <br />applicant’s parents’, you know, desire to have cattle grazing on both the mauka and makai portion. <br /> <br />BEAUDET: I have a question, Sidney. Going to Condition J, you referred to constructing the <br />pull-out on fronting the subject property, so I’m assuming that’s makai side of the road. <br /> <br />FUKE: No, the property is on the mauka side of the old homestead road, so the pull-out would be <br />adjacent to the property on the mauka side, rather than on the makai side of the right-of-way, because <br />the makai side of the right-of-way, you know, the property is right in the back of Matsuyama Store, if <br />you are familiar with that area, there is a severe drop, you know, and so to have the pull-out on the <br />makai side would really not be feasible, you know, except at some considerable cost. The mauka <br />section would be much more feasible. <br /> <br />BEAUDET: But still within the right-of-way, the 50-foot right-of-way --. <br /> <br />FUKE: Well, that’s why --. <br /> <br />BEAUDET: -- or within its encumbrance on the property. <br /> <br />FUKE: It could be within the existing right-of-way. Then, again, he may have to encroach into his <br />own property. So if there is any encroachment, then the encroached portion would be subdivided and <br />dedicated to the County. So that’s the reason why when I had proposed the language, it was, you <br />know, like, “a vehicular pull-out fronting the property within the existing right-of-way and/or <br />portions of the subject property ….” So, you know, until an actual survey is done, it’s difficult to <br />determine whether their pull-out can occur entirely within the right-of-way or it may have to <br />encroach, you know, into the private property. So if it does have to encroach, then he has the <br />obligation to dedicate the portion. <br /> <br />BEAUDET: Thank you. Staff, one of the conditions that was requested for amendment was <br />Condition D. Was there any position from Planning, from the Department on the request? <br /> <br />JACKSON: This was for Condition D? <br /> <br />BEAUDET: Yeah. <br /> <br />JACKSON: Yes, so we, the Department has actually included this condition in all rezones and all <br />Agricultural rezones for about 15 years now, and we’ve done that as a way to kind of control density, <br />residential density on Agricultural land. But in reality it’s kind of a form of contractual zoning, <br />because when someone applies for FA zoning, FA zoning allows for additional farm dwellings; if <br />you meet the farming thresholds, you can apply for and get an additional farm dwelling. So the, I <br />spoke with the Director about this and he is agreeable to actually deleting the condition completely in <br />order to allow for additional farm dwellings on the entire property, if they meet those criteria. <br /> <br />BEAUDET: So what is the farming threshold for three acres, or three-point-something acres? <br />7 <br />EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />