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recuse himself from this hearing. I mean you know that's <br /> my personal opinion and you know I also think that may or <br /> may not hamper this whole hearing here. You know to me <br /> on the outside looking in, being that his wife works for <br /> Council Services means that Mr. Kanuha maybe a if it <br /> doesn't favor him, he might say...and I'm not saying he'll <br /> do this, but this is just what conflict of interest ends up <br /> being right. It is a conflict and I don't feel it's fair to have <br /> somebody whether he's somebody a friend of mine that's <br /> you know he's a friend of a friend. Or he's a friend of <br /> somebody else. When it comes to a fair playground, I want <br /> everything to be fair here and this is what we're here for. <br /> You know and for you Ms. Kahakalau...Dr. Kahakalau <br /> sorry. I saw that you were on a Board with Mr. Kanuha <br /> and I figured you know. My uncle was a judge, Shinichi <br /> Kimura and he was a very honorable man. And he used to <br /> always dismiss any case that came before his bench that <br /> involved any family member whether it was directly <br /> involved with him or an employer or a friend. Because it <br /> was just...you know based on he wanted to be a hundred <br /> percent even playing ground and when I saw...found these <br /> things out, I just was really upset that you know the Ethics <br /> Board members to me weren't ethical. <br /> Ms. Kahakalau: Just a few follow-up questions. So are you implying then <br /> that Mr. Goodenow shouldn't be on the Board at all <br /> because his wife works for the County? Is that... <br /> Mr. Revell: No. No. <br /> Ms. Kahakalau: So it's just this one specific decision. <br /> Mr. Revell: Just this particular. Yes. <br /> Ms. Kahakalau: And I am in no way related to Mr. Kanuha, so I don't know <br /> what the family... <br /> Mr. Revell: It doesn't have to be related...it's the fact that you were on <br /> a Board with him and that's my point. <br /> Ms. Kahakalau: Alright. Thank you. We've received the letters and in <br /> terms of both Mr. Goodenow's letter and my letter <br /> explaining why right. Is that something that they received <br /> as well? So you folks received both of those statements. <br /> Mr. Revell: Yes. <br /> 30 <br />