2016-05-05 Hearing Transcript - PD Initiated Puna Pono Alliance et al Presentation by Claims Adjuster

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HATA-FINLEY: Yeah, we're trying to help him. HEAUKULANL Oh, okay. Okay, Kahu, you don't have to raise your hand yet. I just called you forward. And Jim Albertini, Rocky Jensen. Please come forward, gentlemen. FUJIYOSHI (from audience): Can we yield—can we request that Palikapu speak first? HEAUKULANL Absolutely. The four of you can come up then if you would. Gentlemen? Thank you, Palikapu. If you raise your right hand, I'd appreciate it if you will swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Planning Commission? TESTIFIERS: Yes. HEAUKULANL Thank you, gentlemen. I think you've all been before us before, so you know that my boss sitting over there in the green shirt wants you to speak closely into the microphone, and if you would start your presentation by giving us your full legal name, your place of residence, and then you have three minutes. Palikapu? DEDMAN: Palikapu Dedman with the Pele Defense Fund, 1480 Komohana Street, Hilo. I was listening to the comments by your appraiser, and I was wondering if this, this person does work for EIS's. When you do an EIS, you have a cultural assessment. In that cultural assessment is a section that deals with Hawaiians and their issues. This cultural assessment, the EIS doesn't talk about Portagees, Japanese, Filipinos. It's about Hawaiians. And that is how you do an EIS with a thorough study of impacts on Native Hawaiians, so I'm just wondering if this company does those kind of impact studies on Native Hawaiians to make these claims. Secondly, that I don't understand on a religious claim that I have to be from Puna. I think Jesus Christ is pretty far from home, and He's here, so it's not a matter of insulting a religion that's someplace else. It's right here on this island, and understanding that, when they say just Puna, you've already know that there's been word and there's been language and there's been paperwork about studies going on Hualalai and other parts of the State on the spiritual understanding of geothermal. So, it's not really something that's only supposed to be for Puna. We Hawaiians living here never drew a line that said where Puna was, Kona was, or where Kohala was. That's more in modern times and Western man's understanding about divide and conquering people. That's why we Hawaiians cannot speak for the Hawaiians in Puna. I'm a Hawaiian. The State Constitution doesn't say that we are a separated type of Hawaiians. We are Hawaiians. So, my claims about spirituality in the State of Hawaii should be respected because I think the world respects everybody's religion. We practice that here. So, that's the point I'll try to make, and I'm saying that I don't think they have any understanding about this whole impact and what it really does. On top of that, wasn't that a recommendation from the Puna Pono Alliance with the study, with the Adler study, that that was 12 EXHIBIT D