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like they enjoy being...I mean they don't get paid...you want to <br /> attract volunteer firefighters...I mean it's good for...it's good PR <br /> in a way. I know that maybe going a little beyond the language <br /> here in the Code. I see that and so I feel we should allow it that it <br /> would be a proper consent for us to do that. <br /> Mr. Robinson: If I could add...I agree with all of the points that Mr. Adams made <br /> with except of one and that being the definition of business...that a <br /> non-profit in my mind is not clearly defined as being a business. I <br /> mean it is...you do go thru the corporation process and you get <br /> registration with the IRS, but you're not in the business to make a <br /> profit. So that's the only...for me the only definition or the only <br /> item that I would hang my hat on I guess you could say for proving <br /> this. <br /> Mr. Goodenow: Further discussion Mr. Adams? <br /> Mr. Adams: Just to clarify my view on this. I think that my...it's my <br /> interpretation...but my interpretation of the phrasing comes from a <br /> context that if it's not government then it's private. Right? And <br /> so...and what the Ethics Code is designed to do in this particular <br /> section is make sure that any use of public facilities meaning <br /> government facilities are conducted either by government entities <br /> or in a way that allows for fair and impartial use. So when I am <br /> looking at the use, I'm not looking at the purpose of the use. It's a <br /> noble purpose...right...but it's being done by folks that are subject <br /> to the Code and it's being done...So they're on a quandary...if <br /> they are subject to the Code because they are quasi County <br /> employees, their ability to conduct non-profit...to engage in non- <br /> profit and use government property to do...it puts them afoul of <br /> the sections here. Now if we took the other side and said well <br /> they're not actually part of the...you know they're not actually part <br /> of the County...they're not subject to the Code of Ethics in that <br /> way. The fire station is still government property and you still <br /> have to come up with a way to allow then that volunteer activity to <br /> continue to do what they like to do there. In either case, I'm not <br /> able to make that jump that the activity is allowed under the rules <br /> that we have here. Is there a way to do that? I think there <br /> probably is, but it's not in the way that it's characterized right now. <br /> Mr. Goodenow: Any further discussion? <br /> Mr. Yoshimoto: Mr. Chairman...Okay I want to make sure or clear what the <br /> record...depending on what the Board decides so I just want to <br /> caution the Board members to make sure that if you have anything <br /> else to add in terms of the rationale behind the reasons for your <br /> 14 <br />