2016-04-05 Fire Commission Regular Minutes

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Hawaii Fire Commission Regular Session Minutes April 5, 2016 Page 3 Mr. Acantilado spoke about his previous complaint, HCFC 15-02, and answered questions. He stated that he goes to the fire station often to see a friend. They check his blood pressure. On that day, he had been exercising at the gym. He felt nauseated and went to the fire station. The guy told him he would take his pressure, but he would have to calm down first. About 10-15 minutes later, the medic passed them and said they had to go to Pa'auilo. They left him there. He walked into the station but couldn't find anybody. He went to the police station. There was no discussion about calling an ambulance from the police station. The police officer told him they had to leave, that he could go to the hospital, and that he could make a complaint with the Fire Commission. He called his dad to pick him up. He called 9-1-1 from home, and the medic told him to go to Waimea. They should have done their job which is to always get backup and not leave a person there. He has dehydration and kidney problems. Commissioner Susman told Mr. Acantilado that he went there, but they didn't hear him say or see that he was having a medical emergency. Mr. Acantilado further stated that the medic has an issue with him because he visits his friend at the station. He claims he goes there too much. He lives two houses away from the fire station. He vomited mucous. He went to Waimea, and they told him he was dehydrated and his CK was up. His new evidence is that he was dehydrated. The medic always tells him that he is always coming in. He wouldn't go to Honoka`a Hospital because they do the same thing. He has complaints on them, too. He goes to Waimea because they have the machine. Commissioner Susman told Mr. Acantilado that paramedics don't routinely abandon people who have a medical emergency. They are professionals. They've never had a complaint like this before, so it' not something that happens routinely. This new evidence that he gives doesn't create evidence in his mind that he was abandoned. They didn't see a medical emergency when he went into the fire station that day. Regarding Complaint HCFC 16-02 of January 31, 2016, Mr. Acantilado gave statements and answered questions. He stated that he didn't collapse. He hurt his knee ligaments before and has to use a brace on his leg. When he went up the hill, he felt his kneecap pinching, so he went on his knees. He started vomiting mucous. He didn't fall or lose consciousness. Vice Chair Becker asked about him not wanting to take the precaution of having the C- spine collar on. Mr. Acantilado stated that he was lying down. The firefighter said there would be a wait of 10-20 minutes because they were in `O`okala . They gave him oxygen. He stood up, was talking, and vomited mucous. The medic came. He put the spinal and put the stuff on his neck. His wife heard the other guy say he no need the c -spine because he was moving. He put the c -spine collar on him while he was on the ground. From there, he