2016-06-20 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes — June 20, 2016 TN: Because they give us junk science. This is what, um, Division of Aquatic Resources — they give us junk science. That's not the same type of science where the fisherman who goes out there daily — everyday of their lives they're out there. They can give you better science than any marine biologist that is out there. Better than any report that Walsh has. What they've given us is junk science and the people that showed up at the public hearing — a lot of them told me they wore the shirts because they were giving it out for free — but they weren't for the ten-year ban but it gave the impression — the people that — Auntie Lei and Hannah — they work for Four Season. They're not the hunters and gatherers — they used to be probably — but not anymore — they work for the area. The people that testified — they were paid to testify cause they work — it meant their jobs. Do you know people were fired if they were against the ten-year ban? There's so much inadequacy in this whole process that you folks didn't hear. If they're only hearing about the pro -people — you're hearing about the pro -people cause they work there. Auntie Lei works there at the cultural center. Hannah Springer is consultant to that development group — can you see why we're upset — we weren't heard. I was part of their meeting — I represent the fishermen over there — they didn't want to hear us. This is how upset we are because we're not being heard and you're not hearing us. The fishermen went to see you, Chris, and you didn't want to hear them because you heard Hannah Springer, Auntie Lei and the many people who wore the t -shirt that day. They were giving out bentos for free that evening — everybody wanted a t -shirt — they paid for. They all came — some people came from Molokai — they got paid to be there. Some people came from Kauai. They're not from that area and they testified. Francis Ruddle comes from Puako — he doesn't come from Kau pulehu. People were told they were gonna lose their job if they mentioned they were against the ten-year ban — these are things you didn't hear Chris cause you didn't hear us. These are things we said to Walsh and he didn't want it said. We were given 2 minutes to say what we had to say and we couldn't say our peace... There was a lot of intimidation. There were a lot of fishermen there that night they want to get up because all of the t -shirts — they wore "Try Wait." Try wait for what? It's not even being depleted that area — the science you have from Walsh — is it accurate? Did you have a peer review? Did you question it? CY: All I can say is that if anybody wanted to talk to me they could and they can and I'm, you know, I listen to what people have to say, I just don't always agree. TL: Teresa, we're gonna try and get these administrative records and, Chris has volunteered to give us a means to get the other documents that we can look at that point. We should get these documents to you, and anybody in your group that, has the ability to look and understand — you 21