2016-06-20 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes — June 20, 2016 BCH: Mr. Lodge. This is still is not a time for a question and answer of people who are testifying. If Mr. Duerr would like to submit testimony — that's fine — but we're not going to engage at this point in questioning and answering — especially of — whether the question is directed to you to direct to Mr., um, to the other testifier in Kona. And this is a point or order. TL: OK. I appreciate that, however, um, part of our mission tonight is to find out what went on — who was involved — what happened and, ah, if we have people who were involved I think this commission would like to know what that involvement was and we can address whatever Mr. Yuen can answer on that behalf, otherwise, the commission still wants to know that information. BCH: We can do that when it comes up for the agenda. At this point we're still doing public testimony. TL: I understand. Mr. Yuen has agreed to have questions and answers. RSR: Aloha. My name is Robert Shook Reed — that's my son and, ah, I'm against the ban of this unless you honestly know what it's really gonna do and how it's gonna affect, um, I don't think there was enough studies done to say what the effects is because a lot of it was hidden between the word cultural and scientific studies. Now these scientific studies — only a few people in this room will be able to interpret what the thing is said, but, everybody has a comment on what is said, so, that's one. Second, I want to talk about culture and I want to break it down for you in such a manner that you can understand little bit. Under ahupuaa — that means one person or one family has the power of that land — one. And that family has to be on that map as the only family that owns all that land. Everybody else is allowed to live there or stay there because they allow them, OK, now under the ahupuaa or Kaupulehu I don't think the people there are the ali'is of that land. So they cannot make that decision, if they going by culture. It's the ali'i family that says whether or not they can stop this or do that or do this because the rest of them are just put there, OK, so, you know, culture is a big thing with us — [unclear — sounds like dying] but big for somebody like me I think — I think I'm a good person to explain how a lot of things get lost, yeah? `Cause we assume that a person can come up and say this because they lived there for twenty, thirty years. That don't mean nothing in culture. You have to come from the thing, um, that's one — so I don't believe that family that is calling all of this or asking for this thing to come about is the original family. I think, if I'm not mistaken, it's, ah, Keawe, Keawe Ehu is actually the reigning alii in that area. So the Keawe Ehu family has to be the one to say, ah, we can shut the beach or we can do that or what not. They're the ones, I think, that is on that alii map here with the Mahele map, second, you know, culturally people live on this stuff. We teach families how to live off of the land. We always talk