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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br />Minutes — June 20, 2016 <br />meeting — which was the community element of the meeting and then he <br />was side -kicked with Mr. Tarnas and Mr. Dave Tarnas at the time was <br />instrumental in passing the law to bring in the Marine Protected Areas in <br />Kona. So we had two vested interests. We never saw — we saw Mr. Walsh <br />moving his hat from basically being a cheer leader for Marine Protected <br />Areas to being Mr. Science and Mr. Science had perhaps the most trouble <br />with the people in the crowd when Mr. Walsh -Scientist said the [unclear — <br />sounds like the toppy) do no damage. That the fact that there's no <br />fishermen there and the fisherman — are taking invasively — will not be <br />taking invasives out of the water is no problem because there's — because <br />taape are essentially harmless. That — that part — and that may or may not <br />be true but what we saw was — we then crossed over — we left Dr. Walsh - <br />Scientist and then we crossed over into the formal regulation side of the <br />meeting — it was hard to tell what the science — what was going on — and I <br />bring that into, as a journalist, when we had the scuba -fishing ban — <br />fisherfolk on the Kona side were making accusations — like they're making <br />accusations today — that the public policy was flawed — that it was skewed <br />— that the public testimony in fact was not wanted and was manipulated to <br />not be gotten and it became clear that in fact that the clear provisos of the <br />how the Council for the West Hawaii Fisheries Resource Management <br />Area is to be run have in fact not been run and one of the main points was <br />that the chairperson never stepped down — where it called for a two-year <br />term — but that was the least of the harmful of the accusations — the most <br />harmful accusations were that in fact, fishermen were not wanted on the <br />Council and when they got there they were not made to feel comfortable <br />and in fact were driven off, which were harsh statements — I don't know if <br />that was true or not, but clearly, that's what the statements were. I think <br />the other thing too is — Mr. Reed Shook — it came to my attention that Mr. <br />Reed Shook, as a biologist — was working on a study and that study, in <br />fact, had been, canned, because the results were not in fact what was <br />being looked for in the Marine Reserve and quite frankly, I think that that's <br />something that, would be of interest to find out. Finally, DLNR has a major <br />problem and we're seeing it in the TMT case — that the landowner and <br />developer of the State of Hawaii is also masquerading as the Natural <br />Resource Protection agents and what we find that they are doing is in fact <br />mitigating development in industrial processes by saddling up with <br />environmental groups to make themselves feel good. They are towing — <br />there's nowhere else in the United States where the Fish and Wildlife <br />Commission is run by the land developer of that state and it may very well <br />be time to call for a breaking up of DLNR. <br />VII. DISCUSSION <br />7 <br />