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KERN: Thank you very much. Yeah, I'm Zendo Kern; reside in Kurtistown area. I'm <br />representing Ed Torrison. Ed Torrison had plans to be out of the country during this meeting, <br />and the plans were made before we got notification of this here. So, he would otherwise be here <br />sitting next to me, and he, you know, wanted me to apologize for that. It was just something that <br />he couldn't get out of it. If he was going to Oahu, maybe he could change it, but it was out of the <br />country. <br />So, I'm here to answer any questions. I can do a little bit of background on this project if you'd <br />like. Sure? Okay. You know, I once sat up there right as a Planning Commissioner for quite a <br />few years. Chaired it. Also sat on the Council. So made a lot of challenging decisions, and saw <br />a lot of things come through. Some things I felt were really simple. Some things were a little <br />more challenging, and some things were just flat wrong. <br />So, now me being a planning consultant, I look at things when they first come through as sitting <br />on that side of the table. How does this look? How does this feel? How would I feel if I were <br />sitting in that position as a decision -maker? This one is, it's a little unique. It sits right there. <br />It's got residential around it, and its right there sandwiched in between Waianuenue and <br />Kaumana Drive. And it's—and, it's tight. I looked at it, and I said you know what? I do think <br />that this would actually be a good spot for an office building. Would I want a home there? <br />Would somebody else want a home there? It's not that desirable. You're literally sandwiched <br />between Waianuenue and Kaumana Drive. So, from a single-family resident standpoint, it's not <br />a very desirable location. With an office building of having it look single-family, plantation <br />style, that to me actually—you know what? That makes sense. It still leaves the visual <br />appearance of a residential feel, and it actually creates a buffer to the residences that are right <br />behind it. If you're coming up, it creates a sound buffer and a visual buffer. Landscaping is a <br />ten feet requirement so there would be a 10 -foot landscaping buffer between this property and <br />any of the other properties. An in sense, it would, like I say, it would kind of give it that <br />additional buffer. <br />I noticed some concern from some of the surrounding property owners on traffic. That's a <br />legitimate concern. Having been through and talked with, you know, the Director and seeing the <br />comments that were coming through and talking with my client, I said, you know, it makes sense <br />to have right turn in and right turn out only. No left-hand turns. Traffic's going to flow smooth. <br />Now, if it was a single-family residence, you get left hand turns. Who knows how busy it is? <br />You know, so many people are living at that house, right? They have kids, teenagers, all the way <br />up through, and these days—this day and age with economics being challenging, a lot more <br />people still, you know, are staying in the same household out of the economic situation. You <br />could have 3-4-5-6 cars going in and out there a day. Easily. And they're all making left-hand <br />turns. <br />Subsequently, too, if we go to a multi -family situation which still keeps it residential, I believe <br />that would actually create more traffic than a small office building. Not to mention what—and <br />there possibly would be a condition of no left-hand turns on there, too, but maybe not. <br />EXHIBIT B <br />4 <br />