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KERN: It's close.
<br />IKEDA: Very close, yes. On Kaumana as well as, you know, Waianuenue has a turn. And, I've
<br />seen it on the busy time, and the thing backs way up because—I've been there when it's busy,
<br />and there's no such thing as you're saying—minimal. Let me tell you. It's busy. And, I know
<br />there's a lot of problems because I see bus coming in, and I'm not sure what the street is
<br />Pulima or Punahele or something, and that takes up a lot of traffic because they don't go down
<br />by your area because it's too dangerous for them to make the turn. So, that was my big problem
<br />I have, and like you said—you're kind of downplaying the traffic, but the traffic is a big
<br />problem. But, I don't see—somehow I'm not satisfied about your guys addressing the traffic. It
<br />really bothers me.
<br />KERN: Okay, yeah, and I don't mean to downplay the traffic. In general, I mean, Hilo's gotten
<br />a lot busier in general. It's the traffic that would be generated from the project. That's what
<br />I'mthat's what I'm trying to address. It's just the traffic generated from this project. Being
<br />that it is right -turn in and right -turn out only, the person that would be the most affected is the
<br />person that would be getting, going into the place. I highly doubt that the actual driveway
<br />coming in would back up. It's not that busy of a use, right? So, if they're coming in off
<br />Kaumana taking that right, they're getting off the street.
<br />IKEDA: I'm going to tell you, but if you're gonna turn right on Waianuenue, you're gonna have
<br />problems. If you go there when the hospital ends
<br />KERN: Sure
<br />IKEDA: —that thing backs all the way up because I've seen it.
<br />KERN: Sure, and that, and that does make sense. Now, the traffic that would be coming out,
<br />they would be basically stuck on the property. They would be moving slow. They might not
<br />really care for that, but it doesn't become a risk. It doesn't necessarily—it's not going to create
<br />traffic accidents. It's not going to create additional jam up in my opinion because if, you know,
<br />they gotta wait and, you know, people are nice here, okay go ahead. And then, the person pulls
<br />out and away they go.
<br />If it was a use that was going to be generating a lot more traffic, I could definitely see that.
<br />Being that it will be an office space, you know, I don't see that as much, as much use.
<br />IKEDA: Well, that was another thing I was going to get at. You know, your parking, I think
<br />you had, what, sixteen? You only have what, five offices?
<br />KERN: About five, yeah.
<br />IKEDA: So, you know, if you have two employees, you know like the owner and one secretary
<br />or something, that's already ten. So, each office is going to have only one additional parking for
<br />their customers.
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