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who I am—you're the one that's confused so these are the studies that would make you <br />understand who I am and what impacts are and how I live here in Hawaii as a Hawaiian. So, if <br />you're ignorant, this is important for you to approve and agree and read after it's done so you'll <br />understand the psychological impacts of altering theologies of people's beliefs. Nobody alters <br />theologies of Christian, Buddhism, or Muslims, but for Hawaiians, what do you got? We don't <br />have anything. So, a study would show that that's what we need and what is an impact on how <br />our Hawaiians being treated with this spiritual understandings. <br />CLARKSON: No, no, I'mI'm assuming, for the sake of my question, that the impacts are, are <br />published and disclosed, but what would be the next step in your mind in terms of alleviating <br />those impacts. <br />DEDMAN: Well, the next step would be how County and government address issues or impacts <br />because we got data to prove it. We don't have any data. This is what's important. That you get <br />guidelines on how you treat Hawaiians from now on because we got something to show what <br />impacts really are. <br />CLARKSON: Okay. <br />HENKEL: Thank you. Anymore questions for Mr. Dedman? Thank you. Now, we can move <br />to the public testimony portion. I'm going to call your name. As before—some people are <br />signed up to testify for both this number six on the agenda and number seven and you can, while <br />you're up here, instead of calling you up twice, we'll let you go for six minutes, and you can <br />address both issues. Maija over here will be keeping time. You get three minutes per issue. <br />She'll hold up a sign that, you know, for when it's time to wrap it up. <br />Okay, so Toby Hazel, Melinda FisherI'm just going in the order they signed up—Jim Albertini <br />and Cory Harden, please come up. There's four chairs. Would you raise your right hands? Do <br />you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Planning Commission? <br />TESTIFIERS: Yes. <br />HENKEL: Thank you. Please, we'll start with Cory. You got <br />HAZEL: No. I'm Toby. <br />HENKEL: Toby, I'm sorry. Toby, you've got six minutes to address both issues. <br />HAZEL: Wow, that's a whole lot of time for me. <br />HENKEL: Please proceed. Speak directly into the mic. <br />HAZEL: Okay, so I'm Toby Hazel. I live in Nanawale and which is I think a mile and a half <br />from the geothermal, and I bought that house in 1990 just prior to the blowout that happened <br />then where people had to flee their homes in the middle of the night. And, I don't know what <br />I, I actually wasn't in my house that night `cause I was commuting and I worked in Honolulu, <br />EXHIBIT C <br />