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it a garden party all day long, but, I, no, I mean, even the hotels were sending their overflow to <br />them. So — <br /> <br />CARR SMITH: Okay, thank you very much. <br /> <br />PALMA-GLENNIE: I could go on. Thanks for your question by the way. I appreciate it. <br /> <br />UNGER: Commissioner Kaholo. <br /> <br />KAHOLO: No, no, I don’t have any — <br /> <br />SHIMAOKA: I’ve got a question. When you talk about the neighbors, how many in your <br />definition called ag tourism businesses surround your business? <br /> <br />PALMA-GLENNIE: Well, there are, I think the only one that I know about is the Chocolate <br />Factory folks, and they don’t share my easement. One thing I, I mean, I think that they have <br />probably done it as low-key, I mean, I haven’t heard a lot of people complaining about them but I <br />can’t say, you know, I don’t know them, and they are close to me, but the only thing that I notice <br />is the vans on Walua Road. So, I mean, there is a lot of issues. One of them is access, like, Walua <br />Road really wasn’t made to carry today’s traffic. And so, you know, you see their vans. I’m not <br />complaining about them, I’m really not; I think they seem to be doing a better job than a lot. But <br />still, there are factors that change because depending how many visitors they have, and they have a <br />small van, they have a larger property, I think theirs is over five acres. Like in my neighborhood <br />it’s five and one and a half acre, there’s two and a half, anyway, I think, you know, I think there’s <br />a difference between small ag and minor and major. I think buffers are really important. I do <br />think a daily visitor count makes a difference because, like I said, my neighbors were having 250 <br />people one or two nights a week, I mean, those nights were working nights. Even if they weren’t, <br />who knows, I work every day, so, you know. I don’t know how many other people, I just know <br />there’s a lot of illegal buildings being built — <br /> <br />SHIMAOKA: When you talked about — <br /> <br />PALMA-GLENNIE: — on ag land around us. <br /> <br />SHIMAOKA: — the 250 people, is that the one that you say are doing weddings and parties? <br /> <br />PALMA-GLENNIE: They were doing, they weren’t doing weddings, they were doing garden <br />parties, so they call them, garden parties. And I was just talking to Scott, he said that they, the <br />County did end up investigating them and filing, you know, they did, complaints against them or <br />whatever, but, honestly, we had called for a long time and we didn’t know of anything happening <br />in the neighbors below us. This whole subdivision got a lawyer, and that was when things <br />changed whether, you know, I mean, it took them a lot of thousands of dollars to do that. And we <br />had called and called, the people lived in my subdivision but, you know, we weren’t as well <br />healed and, well, anyway. So it did take, it did seem to take a lawsuit to make it finally, you <br />know, come to fruition, but then again, my friends went through all the proper channels and never <br />ended. <br />5 <br />EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />