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Latter-Day Saints, they didn’t have a spot for her, she was a tiny little girl, she was only eight
<br />months, they put her in a little cave and buried her there. And most of my family, just like
<br />‘O‘oma, they were all buried in caves. I can testify. I see it. We have our own family cave where
<br />bodies are, shelf and shelf and shelf, and you can, you can tell. Also, at Ahikawa when they were
<br />building and J. M. Tanaka was a big wicked at that time, bulldozed just like crazy, they were
<br />clearing the land and all of the sudden the bulldozer went in. Lo and behold they had to call Tūtū
<br />Joe Kahananui who’s a great man at that time, to go pule over whatever mishaps there was. And
<br />he looked inside, he said to me, he told me the story himself, “Girlie, when I looked inside the
<br />cave, I could see shelves of graves, and you could tell they were, by either tapa, you could tell by
<br />the \[inaudible\] or by lau hala mats.” That’s how they cared, that’s how they buried the children.
<br />So, from the mountain to the sea you are gonna find graves all over. When they say there is iwi
<br />there, there is iwi there, whether they put it under the tree, whether the tree grew over the iwi, and
<br />we know that can happen, but they are not lying. I’m not telling you a tale; I’m telling you what is
<br />true. I know for a fact that the fishing gone, it’s not there, you know. I know for a fact we cannot
<br />throw nets. My husband, you know, he used to catch great fish after, first time it was only one or
<br />two, after that the nets were really full, because he learned, you know. Same like I heard earlier, at
<br />White Sands Beach whenever sand goes down, the rocks come up, well, guess what, those green
<br />limu, we ate; we washed it real clean, took all the sand out, and we ate it with stew or whatever we
<br />could. And my aunty, Connie, she had her own limu ground everywhere you went. Same like the
<br />Kahulamū’s, they all knew where to get and where not to take. So, I’m telling you right now I
<br />also live down south right now, because we do have property from my father, it’s in in heritance.
<br />My children were born and raised in Kona, so I know Simmy well because I used to work at the
<br />bank. But my, my thing is that when they opened up the new road by Taniguchi to come down to
<br />town, it’s a big laugh because there is a big road and you have Ali‘i Drive, big stop signs and there
<br />is nothing, it’s not going anywhere, because, why, iwi’s all over the place. They are all over the
<br />place.
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<br />Okay, so that’s one thing, but another thing is that no one taking a little survey of the traffic. The
<br />lady said she comes from down south, well, guess what, I’m right on the side of the road, 96-mile
<br />marker, I got out of my driveway this morning at 6:30, twelve cars passed me. I went to town, I
<br />did my laundry, I didn’t realize, there was no mention of the time in the newspaper, so, I just, I
<br />barely miss, you know, made it. But if I get out of my driveway, there’s like 15, 20 cars going,
<br />and I get on, there’s more than 15, 20 cars coming in. So, coming out of Sandy’s I try to get out, I
<br />couldn’t go either way, left or right, so the best way for me to do, go back to the right to Haleki‘i
<br />Street and go down. It used to be a nice spot for me because hardly people ever, ever went there.
<br />So, I thought, one day my husband and I, we were going to town just to go shopping, and so it was
<br />at a standstill by Ali‘i Kai Drive, you know, you have to stop and give a right of way, oh, my
<br />gosh, it was stop-go, stop-go, and I said to my husband this is unreal. So, you know, it’s like, and
<br />then sometimes we come down to La‘aloa and we go up to the upper road; we don’t make it
<br />because the traffic is just equally long. So, I’m looking at my own, my own method is, if you
<br />have 50 homes and average family has four cars, you have extended families that move back
<br />home, okay, we’ve got grandkids that they don’t have anywhere, they’re going to be homeless, if
<br />we don’t take them in, so average of four cars, think about it, every home if you have 50, that’s a
<br />lot of cars in the morning. I, I leave hour, hour and a half to come to town without stressing. So,
<br />it’s not getting any better. There’s more building coming on. All I’m saying is Kailua is very
<br />precious to me. My dad and I fished out there. We had a canoe. We didn’t have no big sports
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