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NOBRIGA: Thank you. <br /> <br />UNGER: Commissioner Church. <br /> <br />CHURCH: Just, probably really more of a statement, you know, in looking at your, at the prior <br />and current definitions of the meeting facilities and community buildings, it’s almost humorous; <br />they are different words, but they must mean the same thing. So I think that the initiative to start <br />cleaning up the Code to be, to clarify it and to be more specific is a great idea. And the <br />suggestions that were made by the Windward Planning Commission seem to be really outstanding <br />in coordination with you all. So I think that this is really very supportable initiative. <br /> <br />UNGER: Commissioner Carr Smith. <br /> <br />CARR SMITH: Just a little bit confused here. So in Number 1 the Windward Planning <br />Commission’s suggestions they added “or governmental functions,” then when I heard that, I <br />assumed that we were talking about buildings such as this, County buildings, is that true? <br /> <br />DARROW: This particular building, and buildings, is a public use building. So we have a <br />separate section in the Code that the community buildings were fallen under; they were fallen <br />under the public uses building. And so that’s where there was confusion happening, because <br />somebody would come in and want to do a community building, and yet it’s fallen under a public <br />use building, yet the definition says that it was, could be a public or privately owned building. <br />And so there wasn’t that distinct difference between a public use and a private use. And so we <br />wanted to make that clear that public uses are for public uses, although that can include, like in <br />this particular situation, if it’s for the community, it can be used. But there are particular facilities <br />that are meant to be, like, a good example, I don’t know if you are familiar with Sanga Hall in <br />Hilo, but it’s a, it’s a facility that’s rented out on a regular basis to all types of organizations and <br />groups, specifically just to have a place to hold a function, and that’s kind of what we are trying to <br />achieve by separating public uses and meeting facilities. So there is no longer a term “community <br />building”; it’s actually fallen, this “meeting facility” covers community type of, they can use it for <br />any type of community event. But normally that’s for a fee, so you would be renting it from <br />somebody. Now, in this particular case, some public uses offer facilities as long as it’s for a <br />public use, I mean a community type of use, not for, I don’t think they would allow it to be a <br />commercial type use. <br /> <br />CARR SMITH: So has the Leeward, has the Windward Planning Commission already heard this? <br /> <br />DARROW: Yes. <br /> <br />CARR SMITH: And that’s why they made these recommendations? <br /> <br />DARROW: The first change. <br /> <br />CARR SMITH: But then subsequently the Planning Department decided that they would rather <br />not have the public or private, and they did not, you folks did not accept the concept of the <br />governmental functions, is that right? <br /> <br />4 <br />EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />