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<br />HO: So, this is actually before it goes to you guys. This is actually done by the hearing officer. <br />And I think the only mistake actually is that it says by the Commission, because there are times <br />where you guys could actually hear it, if you wanted to be the hearings officer. You could just <br />hear the contested case hearing, but in most cases, the Commission usually choses to hire a <br />hearings officer. So, it actually is in the proper order that it would go in. It’s just with the wrong <br />wording in that one rule. <br /> <br />CLARKSON: Well, 4-26 is appeal of the Commission’s decision. <br /> <br />HO: Yeah, that, I think that needs to be moved to the end, but everything else is, is talking about <br />the hearings officers, so it does need to be probably reworded. <br /> <br />JACKSON: Let’s see — <br /> <br />CLARKSON: Okay, so you’re saying that 4-21 is actually referring to the contested case <br />hearing officer, which could be the Commission? <br /> <br />HO: I could be wrong, though, but I will yield that one to Maija. <br /> <br />JACKSON: Actually, if we could take a break? <br /> <br />HO: Okay. <br /> <br />JACKSON: And, then that would give the Department and Corp. Counsel an opportunity to see <br />where we could reorganize the rule. How does that sound? Chair Unger? <br /> <br />UNGER: I guess we can go ahead and take a ten-minute break, and when we come back, then, <br />we’ll open it up for public testimony. <br /> <br />HO: Sounds good. <br /> <br />RECESSED The Chair called a recess at 11:42 a.m. <br /> <br />RECONVENED: The meeting reconvened at 11:56 a.m. <br /> <br />UNGER: The meeting is called back to order. Before we open up the meeting to public <br />testimony, Ms. Jackson, would you like, do you have something to say? <br /> <br />JACKSON: I do. I have discussed it with Corp. Counsel and Mr. Clarkson. We think that — <br /> <br />UNGER: Ms. Jackson, can you hold on one minute? We’re missing one Commissioner. <br /> <br />JACKSON: Okay. <br /> <br />UNGER: We’re here. You can continue. Thank you. <br />16 <br />EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />