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<br />CLARKSON: No, that’s coming later. <br /> <br />JACKSON: Okay. All right. <br /> <br />CLARKSON: I do have one more question. I’m sorry to be so nit-picky, but 4-6(b)(5), “Persons <br />who are descendants of native Hawaiians who inhabited the Hawaiian islands prior to 1778,” that <br />language is repeated many times in the rules, and of course, those people would not likely be <br />surrounding property owners. So just clarify for me one more time; there is, there is, with every <br />application, there’s a publication of the application and a journal of public interest where <br />non-property owners would learn about an application. <br /> <br />JACKSON: Yes, there’s a publication in the newspapers. <br />CLARKSON: Okay. And that’s many months before the ‒‒ <br />JACKSON: That is, like Daryn said, we try to do it at least 20 days prior to the hearing. <br />CLARKSON: Oh, that’s the 20 days prior. <br />JACKSON: Yes. <br />CLARKSON: Okay. Also in the same, 4-6(b)(5), sometimes, and in this case, it’s “Hawaiians <br />who inhabited the Hawaiian islands prior to 1778, who practiced those rights which were <br />customarily and traditionally exercised for subsistence, cultural or religious purposes.” I’m <br />confused by who is practicing. The Hawaiians who inhabited prior to 1778? Because there’s a <br />“d,” “practiced.” Or is it who practice, who are descendants who are continuing to practice those <br />subsistence rights? Who is practicing in this clause here? <br />JACKSON: Good question. Malia, do you happen to know ‒‒ <br />CLARKSON: Well, I would ‒‒ <br /> <br />HO: Yeah, it’s, it’s Hawaiian, native Hawaiians that practice religious ‒‒ <br /> <br />CLARKSON: Now. <br /> <br />JACKSON: Currently practice. <br /> <br />CLARKSON: Now. <br /> <br />HO: Yeah, now. Yeah. <br /> <br />CLARKSON: Okay, well, I ‒‒ <br /> <br />7 <br />EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />