2017-02-17 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes — February 13, 2017 forester — foresters have said for 150 years there shouldn't be cattle in the forest and I still say there shouldn't be cattle in the forest. KD: OK. I going put one crazy thought in the mind — what about birds? JB: The fungus is the sapwood — so the birds aren't coming in contact with that — so these fungi aren't spread by birds. I don't think the birds are a concern at all. KD: Because earlier you said one place where lot of times bird goes and nests right, between two branches and stuff, you know how I mean — how it sits? So a lot of times you going see birds in there. JB: Right. KD: So wouldn't that be one form of getting 'em on them. JB: No, what I meant was when the two branches grow together the inside the wood — so when you see a tree that's split open in a storm because the two branches were too close —they don't fuse because there's bark in between them and they split open — inside the wood there — that's where it's getting affected — not up where the bird's having a nest. We're not concerned about birds as moving it around. KD: Well... I mean like you get all these birds on the ground too. They're like chickens, you know, they going start scratching, they going start eating. And then they going start flying distances, I mean, generally we're not go look at that either. JB: No, we haven't looked at that. KD: A lot of times we are always looking at the pigs and the goats but, we tend not to look at the birds because that's money-maker in my opinion. JB: Again, I'm trying to look at primarily what kind of animals are gonna do damage to trees. JB: That's the main thing that I'm concerned with. And then animals are going to move soil around. So next, I'm trying to get a meeting with the cattleman. That's something I'm much more worried about than feral animals is herds — people moving a herd of cattle from one — say you're grazing in Kau and then you want to go graze in Waimea and figure out what's going on with that. That's something that concerns me a lot more. think, just again, any of these things is — it's a odds — it's a how much stuff is gonna be moved on and a cow's gonna do a lot more damage than a 28