2017-07-06 Hearing Transcript - Verizon Wireless USE 17-000067

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transmitter. So, when your phone is close to you, it can actually expose you to a bit more than the tower which is, in this case, at least a 160 feet away. So, from a—from an EME which is regulated by the FCC—and we also don't have any ability to change those rules, but we do abide by those regulations. And, at that large distance of a 160 feet, we know we'll be well below those levels set forth by the FCC for safety for the public and stuff like that. SUNG: Just one more thing to add, sorry. State Historic Preservation also provided that "no effect" letter back in 1985, 2015, excuse me, so I just want to point that out. AUDIENCE MEMBER: [Inaudible] HENKEL: NoI'm sorry, any questions for Verizon from the Commission? Yes, Mr. Ikeda. IKEDA: You know, one of the, how shall I say, people against your project stated that you have a lot of towers in there. Is it true that you have another tower close by? SHAFFER: So, the two closest towers, the one in the Glenwood Estates, we're already on, and it's pretty far away. It's over two miles away. The Fern Forest tower is too far west, and the tower, there's one other tower that was mentioned in the farm lots. That's about a mile away. So, we're planning several towers in the area, and they basically have to be spaced correctly in order to have contiguous coverage or we'll end up having to build another tower. So, one thing we don't want to do is put a tower in the wrong spot and then have to build two towers rather than one. So, one properly placed tower is better than two or three that are not ideally placed. And, as for co -location, the gentleman mentioned that some tower, the towers built by Vista, have multiple carriers on them. Our tower will also be available for co -location, so any—we can't make any other cell phone companies put their services on there, but any that are willing or would like to will be allowed to and that's encouraged across the industry as you folks know—to co -locate on existing towers rather than build a new one right next to an existing one. IKEDA: Another question, please? HENKEL: Yes, go ahead, Mr. Ikeda. IKEDA: The person who filed for contested case here filed that the—is the towers obsolete as, you know, because she said, right now, fiber optics are the way to go. Is it true? Not true? SHAFFER: So, fiber optics are on the line, so that's actually we use fiber optics to connect the cell site back to the switch which is then connected to other phone companies and the Internet so you can make phone calls and get on-line. So, we do use fiber optics. But, the last leg, the connection from the tower to the phone is electromagnetic. It has to be. So, it's not obsolete. It's not going away. EXHIBIT A 11