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SELF: Amy Self, Deputy Corporation Counsel representing the Planning Department. The <br />Planning Director does object to the Petition for Standing because we feel that she has not clearly <br />stated a reason that is distinguishable from that of the general public since she is fourteen under <br />her own words -1,400 feet away. And, also, she has not fully described the practice that has <br />been customarily and traditionally exercised for subsistent, cultural, or religious purposes. And <br />for the Commission's reference, that is Planning Commission Rule 4-6(b) as in boy, and <br />specifically items 1 and 5. <br />HENKEL: Okay, thank you. Norine, do you have any response to the Planning Director's <br />objections to your Petition? <br />FITZGERALD: Yes, I do. I would challenge the Corporation Counsel to clarify her statement <br />when it says, when she says that I am not different from the general public. The general public <br />lives much farther away than 1,400 some odd feet. I think I am different in that category. Also, <br />regarding my Hawaiian practices, I go to that land every day. I pass that land every day. I <br />respect that land. I haveI have a kuleana towards that land to protect it, and the people around <br />it. It's my right as a Hawaiian to do that. Do not deny me based on the fact that the Planning <br />Director told me that my birth certificate would be sufficient. Now, it's something else. That is <br />not right. I have a kuleana to that land and the people. That is my Hawaiian practice. <br />HENKEL: Thanks, Norine. Commissioners, are, do you have any questions for either the <br />Planning Department, Verizon, or the Applicant? <br />IKEDA: Mr. Chairman? <br />HENKEL: Yes. <br />IKEDA: I know this is out of, not ordinary, but I'd like to hear from the closest resident to the <br />tower. <br />HENKEL: Thanks, Donald. Well, then the next agenda item on this—you people may have <br />your seat, and we'll allow public testimony now, and give us a chance. I believe the nearest <br />resident stated that she is here. I assume she's signed up to testify. So, I haven't been given a <br />list yet of people that are signed up, but it's, it's coming, so please be patient. And, <br />Commissioners, while we're waiting, you know, after the public testimony portion, if any of you <br />would like to go into executive session to discuss the options with our Corp. Counsel, we can <br />move and do that. <br />Okay, we have four people signed up, and we'll get all four of them at once. Theresa Billian <br />thank you—Julia Puckett, Tom Cumming, and Crystal Schiszler. So, I've got four signed up and <br />three up here. Who's—you must be Tom. Here we go. Thank you. Will the four of you please <br />raise your right hands? Do you swear to tell the truth in this matter before the Windward <br />Planning Commission? <br />TESTIFIERS: Yes. <br />EXHIBIT A <br />6 <br />