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Mr. Goodenow: Pardon me...I'd like to get a waiver for us to write to the State <br /> Ethics Commission protecting us from any liability...just <br /> kidding...but it's a good...Doug I'm gonna take a look at <br /> Denver...I think that's a good thing...I like the idea.... <br /> Mr. Adams: Okay. <br /> Mr. Goodenow: Thank you for the cultural prospective as well. <br /> Mr. Adams: Okay...couns el? <br /> Mr. Yoshimoto: Yeah I think it's worth exploring...I have comments over the <br /> entire Ethics Code so I guess when the time is appropriate...I'll <br /> make those comments as well because...there's a lot we can <br /> recommend...fixing to the Council...that's one of our functions <br /> and...I think it's a lot that can be done basically restructure at <br /> least...what's the word...solidify what we really want to do with <br /> our Ethics Code because you know it...there's been <br /> some...sometimes when I know the board's thought about wanting <br /> additional specificity that allows you to do the things that you want <br /> to do...we talked about one today I think you know it's a very <br /> valid thing and if the code allowed it...it would be something <br /> that...would be helpful....but I have a lot to say about...your <br /> waiver yeah...I mean that would be a good idea to explore. <br /> Mr. Adams: Since we're having this discussion...and you've indicated that you <br /> have some ideas on that and may be you're having these <br /> conversations with the Chair already...I would be interested in <br /> seeing those because if...whatever...you know whatever is going <br /> to be proposed for the Rules of Practice and Procedure...it's going <br /> to be based on the existing code and if we're gonna <br /> change....recommend changes to the code then that's gonna <br /> potentially have changes to the rules...so the backwards way of <br /> this would be to do it the way I'm doing which is to come in with <br /> rules and then we're gonna submit code changes later on so...I <br /> would be interested in hearing about those suggestions but that's <br /> just me so... <br /> Mr. Yoshimoto: So the example is I guess you know member Adams what you're <br /> looking at is you're looking at Maui...see how...basically see how <br /> they do it...so they're very similar I think in our...approach to <br /> ethics complaints...you know the contrast would be how the State <br /> Ethics Commission pursues their complaints or how Honolulu City <br /> and County I think they take a more....for lack of a better <br /> term...prosecutorial.... <br /> Q <br /> 23 <br />