2017-08-22 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes – August 22, 2017 and E species – that impacts all of the native species. And not just the native species but the system on a whole – it’s supposed to be, right? I mean, theoretically. And so, we would like to and intend to manage the animals so that there’s no loss of native forest outside of the exclosures. That will include out-plantings and other types of mitigation but that’s how we – that’s how we want to manage the animals. TL: The last question that I have is – on the original plan – that he has or if you’ve read it carefully enough it could be fifteen years before one animal is allowed in there under the original plan. And you and I have talked about that before and we had asked that, when you were going to review this that animals be allowed, which I think is what you said, but, you may even clarify this for me – that animals are gonna be allowed in there or not eradicated or taken out or removed throughout this period outside of the exclosures … KS: Yeah, we’re not doing any kind of extra removals of animals outside of the exclosures, what I’m saying is that – I want to bring more animals in and that’s probably not gonna happen until the Phase 1 is done and so what’s already there and if we can within the laws and our restrictions and regulations if we can help what’s there already be there it’d be a little better, ah, maybe an increase a little bit, again, according to whatever our laws are. We’re not gonna take animals out of the areas outside of the exclosures. That’s not gonna happen at all. But if I want to do augmentations and trans- locations from other areas I don’t think that’s gonna happen until Phase 1 is complete. TL: What would be the best way to improve populations as they are in Puuanahulu? Would it be predator control? KS: That’s what I think. Predator control. Control of poaching. I don’t know if I can address the comment that Ryan made – he and I have spoken several times and I would like to also publish names – we’ve had cameras in the area for our predator control program for over a year and a half now and I think we had seven convictions last year of people hunting in Puuwaawaa illegally and so it’s kind of funny, I mean, we had cameras up trying to find dogs and we were getting other predators – guys that were in there when they weren’t supposed to be in there which is unexpected but, but, you know, a good side thing. I think those are the two biggest things would be predators and poaching. TL: Have you folks had any discussion with Robert Farrell at all about the poaching issue yet? KS: Nope. I don’t know who that is. TL: DOFAW... 20