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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br />Minutes – November 8, 2017 <br />DS: There’s a bunch of areas – we can get you maps of what we consider the <br />primary conservation zone lands... <br /> <br />WJC: Where? Which forests are we talking about? Kau, Puuwaawaa, which <br />mountain? <br /> <br />DS: On all the mountains there’s good forest. <br /> <br />WJC: And in all the forests what has been there for hundreds of years. <br /> <br />DS: A lot of it’s really beat up and some of it’s in good condition. So the stuff <br />that’s in good condition we’re gonna try to protect and other areas that we <br />have more flexibility on how to manage it... <br /> <br />WJC: I understand. What I’m getting at is the animals have been there living in <br />conjunction with close to pristine area. Why does the animals always have <br />to be the first target? Why is that just because that’s the easiest thing to get <br />rid of? <br /> <br />DS: No, because they’re the biggest negative impacts on native resources. We <br />have more endangered species than any other state in the nation. <br /> <br />WJC: I understand. <br /> <br />DS: These introduced animals have huge impacts on our native resources and <br />areas have continued to degrade and decline. Relatively a small amount of <br />areas that are still in really good condition and some of those areas we really <br />want to protect. <br /> <br />TN: You know, some of our native species were not destroyed by animals – they <br />were destroyed by introduced species – insects – the wiliwili tree... <br /> <br /> Those are your destruction – not the animals. You have to be clear on this <br />and what species you consider endangered. You’re talking about the uhi uhi, I <br />mean, you keep talking about endangered species of plants – so what plants <br />are you talking about. You’re talking about trees? <br /> <br />DS: Yes. <br /> <br />TN: Are you talking about the lama, you’re talking about the koki ai \[sic\]? You’re <br />talking about the halapepe? What species are you saying these animals are <br />destroying or being destructive of? <br /> <br /> Are you talking about the pigs, are you talking the goats, you talking about the <br />sheep, you’re talking about dry land... <br /> <br />12 <br /> <br /> <br />