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Where, in this case, we're not just saying hey can we do this and have these cars come up there. <br />We want to improve the road. We want to make, make it a better place, make it a better situation <br />by doing this and be respectable to, to the neighbors, and to the community. Any time there's <br />change, it's, it has some challenges. If there were other locations in Puna that had that same type <br />of locale and had the zoning, then that would be a lot easier, but we're challenged as a County <br />from that perspective. I believe four percent of our Island is Urban. The remaining of it is <br />Conservation and Ag. Thus, we have the Special Permit process. So, it's, it's, while we <br />completely understand where you're coming from, it's, it's challenged because of the County <br />that we live in and the way that it's been planned. Or lack thereof from many years ago. So, <br />we're kind of having to go along as we can. <br />The, you know, we're open to a discussion. I think this is a good, I believe this is a good project. <br />It's for the right reasons. It's quiet. It's mellow. There are overnight accommodations that are <br />needed for the Island. There really are especially up in that area. So if, let's say the 21 number <br />on, or regular overnight accommodations was too high, what would be something that, be a little <br />more comfortable with. I think keeping that for the, you know, retreats makes sense, but overall, <br />you know, if there's problems with this, I think that this something that would be worthwhile to <br />have a discussion about instead of just a straight, you know, no. Or, you know, we're open to <br />working with the Commission to try to come up with an agreeable solution. <br />And, on the side of the water trucks going up there, the Applicant still does have to maintain the <br />road, so he'll be responsible for that. And, one could argue that the truck would actually <br />compact that road down and make it more solid. <br />CLARKSON: Nice try. <br />KERN: I know. But, you know, regardless of that wear and tear, the Applicant would actually <br />have to maintain it, so. <br />MIYASATO: Zendo, you know, I heard you say continue discussion with the Commission, but <br />I'm just wondering if you would have a continued discussion with the community on some type <br />of compromise. <br />KERN: Absolutely. Yeah, there's never been a problem with doing that. We sent out the <br />notices to surrounding property owners as, as required. Based on my conversations with the <br />Applicant and them talking to the neighbors, you know, obviously some are for and some are <br />against, but that's, you know, never a problem. <br />HENKEL: Anymore comments? Discussion? <br />YEE: I have a comment not for Zendo, though. I hear Mr. Clarkson's concern about when does <br />Special Permit not be so special when we're making them all the time. I think Zendo did make a <br />point around so much of the land is for Conservation and Ag. And, so I have been challenged <br />with trying to make recommendations around a lot of special use applications. In this case, you <br />know, yoga retreats and stuff weren't necessarily addressed in writing our Code, and so we're <br />struggling with where's the best place to put them. And, you know, that goes along with where <br />EXHIBIT A <br />15 <br />