2017-11-28 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes – November 28, 2017 gonna come up for public hearing at some point but we said crossbows and archery areas would be for those that have a permit to use a crossbow. So any comments from the public on this? The other thing is the minimum barrel length of hand guns. I don’t know where it came from – except somebody said – well, four and half inches or five inches for a semi-automatic – if you’re a hunter you’re not gonna go hunting with something that’s not effective for you – so for us to tell you what you’re good with or you may be somebody who takes pride in doing things a little bit harder – when you have a little shorter barrel or a little longer barrel or whatever it might be – personally, some of us feel that’s a choice of what you want to use should be yours. Any Questions? WJC: I disagree with the restriction of the short barrels on those handguns - because people are gonna try and use those tiny little snub nosed things {Dialogue} WJC: Somebody who wants to use a four inch instead of – a shorter barrel. TL: Joey do you know why that 4 ½ inches is there. JM: I believe it has law enforcement reasons. All right – well that’s something we can toss around which then brings us down to the muzzle loader size. TL: Joey and I have been talking about Mauna Kean. Right now, we can hunt from a half an hour before sunset till a half an hour after sunset. If you’re on the back side of Mauna Kea, for example, you have to check out of Kilohana or Puu Huluhulu by 7:30. So if you hunt till the end of your legal hunting hours, it might not give you time to get back in and so Joey and I were discussing it. He said that really at this time in the Mauna Kea Game Management Area – this really doesn’t serve a purpose anymore. So that would be the reason why we would want to just remove that and not – even though it’s probably not being enforced, why have it in there if we don’t need it in there. I’m hoping the commission will come up with other ideas– over the next couple of weeks please go through 183D, go through HRS. I’ll sit down with Joey – there are some other things that he brought up that we may want to determine as well and now that we have a State Game Commission. Moving on to Wildlife Revolving Fund. MH: Sorry. Just for my clarification, Chair, do you guys have a committee for rule changes? Who’s on that committee? TL: Jim O’Keefe, Nani Pogline and myself is on. MH: Got it. Thank you. 4