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JACKSON: I think there are some larger lots in Kopua Farm Lots. I don't know if they're 20
<br />acres, but they are larger, much larger.
<br />IKEDA: Yeah, but, even like also, like the one on the top. They're all 20 acres, so I was
<br />surprised one of those weren't chosen because it's, no one's living there.
<br />SUNG: Yeah, so it didn't meet our objective. So, basically what I do find is I find candidates.
<br />So, when I do find candidates, I present it to Verizon and there are engineers who chose which
<br />location they want based on obviously meeting, you know, what they need to cover.
<br />CLARKSON: And, can you explainI think, can you explain in a little detail what the, how the
<br />search ring is decided upon. Where you're allowed to look for candidate properties.
<br />SUNG: So, basically, based on obviously coverage needs, capacity needs, if they have enough
<br />complaints from customers saying hey, I'm not getting coverage at my house. I gotta go walls
<br />out to use the phone, you know, I'm going to switch service if you guys don't improve your
<br />service here. So, based on this three criteria is usually what they do. In most cases, Verizon RF
<br />engineers, they'll look at it every year. They'll come up with basically priorities, areas of where
<br />they think lack coverage and capacity. As you know, there's more people using cell phones
<br />now. So, the capacity needed in case, so make sure there's no dropped calls, no dropped data,
<br />but, more importantly, when there is, you know, power outages, when there are natural disasters,
<br />that these—these service[s] when land line goes down, that cell phone coverage will continue for
<br />customers. Sometimes when you have natural disasters, everybody wants to call home. People
<br />from the mainland want to call you, you want to call to the mainland if you have family, and a lot
<br />of times, like Honolulu, I think when they had that power outage, I think a lot of cell, a lot of
<br />areas, basically they had dropped calls and everybody was panicking. Everybody was
<br />complaining to the cell phone carriers, and that's why they keep coming back. We're trying to
<br />improveI mean, all the carriers, the bigger carriers try to, you know, improve their coverage
<br />that way.
<br />RAFFIPIY: Question. Two questions. You don't have a graph that shows the cell bubbles,
<br />around that area where we can see just the cell bubbles—that you can present to us so we can see
<br />the cell coverage, the cell bubbles.
<br />SUNG: Like a propagation map?
<br />RAFFIPIY: Correct.
<br />SUNG: I think one was presented in my, on the write-up. If not, that's something I can get from
<br />Verizon. And I think—sorry, I think your initial question
<br />RAFFIPIY —Right
<br />SUNG: —are we willing to move the location of the tower? Actually, I did speak with the
<br />owner. I did speak with Verizon, and I'm, basically, I'mif it was requested, the owner is
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