2017-03-13 Public Access, Open Space and Natural Resources Preservation Commission Minutes (2)

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all false jurisdiction. And if you do title searches it should go way back to the Kingdom, not till 59. Because that is when all the confusion.And in 1898 they claimed that crown and government lands was magically annexed to the Ohio River Valley, which is Article 5 of the Northwest Ordinance and that is how you get the word Public. And everything is Public from that point on. So whenever you are reading the case law, theirdealing with article 4, section 3 clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution. That is limited to the Ohio River Valley, only. There is only one territory and that’s that one. There is no Amendment to the Constitution or to the Northwest Ordinance. So it’s something that you should be aware of. Lot of lands here are either crown lands, which cannot be sold. The plantation claimed to own them after their lease ended. Then they sold it to other people. Believing that they own the land, which is not true. As far as the government land, these are all term. So usually it’s just. . . . um. . . years for foreigners, . . um . . . as far as for the Kuleana lands it’s the life of the individual. As far as for the most leases went 15 to 30 years. And when those leases ended that was it. There was no lease already. And the tax map key gives you a false belief that you own the land. You don’t own it. It just a towns scheme that put in place so that the state government and the county government can exist. So as far as the case laws the Federal government put out is all basedon article 4, section 3, clause 2. Keanu Sai was the last one dealing with that, I think back in 2011. And he was stomped with a politicalquestion, but he failed to tell them that, that the politicalquestion is limited it doesn’t extend to here, just to Ohio River Valley, which is Article 5. For the court to have said that, that politicalquestion is kind of . . . make you wonder. So with that I’ll end and will reserve the rights of myself and the Hawaiian Kingdom. Thank you. Vice Chair Tomich –Thank you. SHELLEY MAKA‘ALA NAKOA MAHI ViceChair –Next we have Shelley representing Native Tenant Protection Council.Speaking on Agenda itemnumber Communication No.17-001,our PONC form,our Ad Hoc Committee and the CDPs. Ms. Mahi –Hi Aloha, my name is Shelley Mahi . . Um . . I’m with the Native Tenant Protection Council. And um I’m formally . . . um . . . actually was employed under County Councilman Bob Jacobson. And so my job was to look at native Hawaiian issues within public access open space natural resource commission areas. So . . . um . . . the first thing that you may see in your packet is that there is a letter from Department of Finance . . . um . . . stating that they don’t have a policy on native tenants in open spaces. So the problem with that issay . . . um . . . our worst case scenario say .Um there is actually in civil case 90073 page 4, native tenants rights are rese Hilea, and other parcels. And so . . . um . . . at this time . . . um what I would like to ask is that the PONC . . . um I went over it with Eoff she sent me the Charter for the original PONC is to 2