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access we’ve already spoken with the staff and we say that, you know, it will be shifting, you
<br />know, depending on where the tide is, you know, from a practical matter because, you know, it
<br />changes during the course of a day and it changes whether you have high tide, low tide, monster
<br />tide or whatever, so we say wherever it is, because the objective is to allow for unfettered lateral
<br />access, you know, through the property, you know, along the shoreline. Speaking about access,
<br />too, also the plan called for, you know, this plan and also the current plan, you know like, I think,
<br />Ms. Carr Smith, you questioned about like why do the trail end; my understanding, and Dr. Haun
<br />can collaborate, was that that’s all they could find, it just ended for some reason. So when we
<br />went before the County Cultural Commission, they had said like okay if that’s what, if that’s what
<br />on the ground, but we know at some point in time it’s got to go down to the shoreline, so can you
<br />integrate that into your plan? So we said yes fine. So the plan before, that plan, as well as the
<br />current plan right now, reflects the extension of the trail down to the shoreline. So anyway, I’m
<br />getting hoarse, so I think I’m done.
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<br />UNGER: Thank you for the presentation. At this time, if members of the public are trying to plan
<br />their day, what we are going to do, we are going to open up the meeting for questions between the
<br />Commissioners and the applicant. After that we are going to take a short five-, ten-minute break,
<br />and then we are going to open up the meeting for public testimony. So to probably make the
<br />question-and-answer period a little bit more efficient, why don’t we call up your consultants now?
<br />They can be part, I mean, if you want to stay there that’s fine, and they can be part of the
<br />question-and-answer period. Please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth
<br />before the Planning Commission?
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<br />APPLICANT’S CONSULTANTS: Yes.
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<br />UNGER: Please state your name and your area of residence.
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<br />DOLLAR: My name is Steven Dollar, Honolulu, Hawai‘i.
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<br />HAUN: Alan Haun, Kailua-Kona.
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<br />BROCK: Richard Brock, Honolulu, Hawai‘i.
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<br />UNGER: Thank you. Commissioners, any questions?
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<br />CHURCH: I guess I have a, I have a question. It seems that increasing concern for developments
<br />that are near a shoreline, particularly larger ones, as a result of the porosity of the soils is the
<br />leaching of chemicals through the porosity of the soil and into the ocean affecting everything from
<br />algae to coral and so forth. On Sidney Fuke’s Tab 4 from on anchialine pool resources it shows
<br />the change in surveys in 2001 to 2015, and in particular phosphorus increased by about 250
<br />percent and is beyond the standard, and also, this orthophosphorous increased about 60 percent.
<br />So I was just wondering what impact a small property like this, a modest size property like this is
<br />going to have. I can’t imagine that it’s going to be helpful, but I was interested in the sort of the
<br />technical conclusion.
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