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<br />DOLLAR: Yes, regarding your, your comments on phosphorus. I’ve seen the same kind of thing, <br />and what we sort of have concluded is when you see these huge spikes in phosphorus but not in <br />nitrogen, it’s a result of people using the pond because phosphates are high in soaps and <br />detergents. And as Dr. Brock said, it’s usually ephemeral. But to repeat what he said, the most of <br />these anchialine ponds are now we call nutrient limited, meaning that they have very high levels of <br />nutrients in their normal healthy stage, and it’s only when you have other things getting involved <br />like alien fish that got to mess up the balance that you see the degradation. <br /> <br />UNGER: Any other questions? Thank you. We are going to go ahead and take a short break, and <br />then we’ll open the meeting up to public testimony. <br /> <br />RECESSED The Chair called a recess at 11:19 a.m. <br /> <br />RECONVENED The meeting reconvened at 11:35 a.m. <br /> <br />UNGER: The hearing is back in order. We’ll go ahead and open up the hearing for public <br />testimony. There are 27 people signed up to testify. I would like to request that testimony be <br />limited to three minutes. This is not an issue for the convenience of the Commissioners or for the <br />convenience of the County staff; this is so that your neighbor to your right and to your neighbor to <br />the left can also testify who also gave up their day and their time to be here. It’s our goal here to <br />hear from every one of you, so please kōkua. Thank you. I’ll be calling up testifiers six at a time. <br />And before I do that, if everybody here that is ready to testify, if I can swear you in one time. So <br />if you would please, please raise your right hand. I swear or affirm to tell the truth before the <br />Planning Commission? I do? <br /> <br />TESTIFIERS IN AUDIENCE: I do. <br /> <br />UNGER: Thank you. So I will be calling up the first six names: Barbara Schaefer, Thomas <br />Murray, Max Newberg, Kamuela Plunkett, David Harlow and Mary Wills. Thank you. Before <br />you start your testimony, if you could state your name and the area of residence. So we can start <br />here, ma’am. <br /> <br />SCHAEFER: Aloha. <br /> <br />UNGER: Aloha. <br /> <br />SCHAEFER: My name is Barbara Schaefer. I live in Waimea, Kamuela, and today I’m <br />representing the Board of Directors of E Mau Nā Ala Hele. Do you want the names of everyone <br />or should I go ahead? <br /> <br />UNGER: That’s not necessary. <br /> <br />SCHAEFER: Okay. I mean, of — <br /> <br />UNGER: Oh, no, no, go ahead and complete your testimony. <br />19 <br />EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />