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<br />requirements. Essentially, you have to go through the same requirements if you do not have an <br />NPDES permit. <br /> <br /> Chair Bennett said that was a good clarification, but they are talking about taking it the <br />next step, which is the removal of the nitrogen and phosphorous which degrade the quality of the <br />water. Both are nutrients, which farmers like himself use. The best thing would be to figure out <br />how to put those nutrients to better use and keep them from the water. <br /> <br /> Vice Chair Olson said the matter was litigated, and he assumes there are environmental <br />organizations which will litigate it further if the state or county does not act to correct the <br />violations. The litigation resulted in a big pay day for the law firm handling it. The law has been <br />settled, and the state and county will be compelled to act as well as pick up the tab for the <br />litigation and the needed repairs. <br /> <br /> Commissioner Osborne asked if the ruling was specific to Maui, and Chair Bennett <br />explained it applies to anybody living in the entire Ninth Circuit of the United States. An <br />injection well is nothing elaborate, just a hole deeper than it is wide. <br /> <br /> Chair Bennett asked Director Kucharski whether it was his view that an NPDES permit <br />would not be necessary if the County removes the nitrogen and phosphorous in the wastewater. <br />Director Kucharski said an NPDES permit will always be necessary if there is a discharge to <br />U.S. waters. However, there are alternative disposal methods, such as surface disposal using <br />vegetative uptake, or a diffuse discharge into a soil-aquifer treatment, or SAT. There are some <br />areas where only a discharge permit is issued, such as Kealakehe. It has only a discharge permit <br />because it is not a physical injection well. In Kaloko, however, they have a treatment system for <br />a housing unit, and it has a direct injection well. Honokaʻa also has a direct injection well. The <br />biggest problem is in removing the nitrates, which is physically and chemically very difficult to <br />do. In Kealakehe, they are putting constructed wetlands to denitrify, but on the rainy side of the <br />island it would not work well because of the saturation and overflow due to large rainfall events. <br />The county is facing fiscal constraints and examining ways to make things work. DEM <br />anticipates they will be addressing their injection wells because of the Maui decision. However, <br />advanced treatment will double costs, and the budget is being cut. DEM does not have an <br />answer, and these are very difficult technical issues. <br /> <br /> Chair Bennett said the point is to try to get ahead of the ball instead of behind it. He <br />asked about whether anaerobic fluidized beds would be viable; and Director Kucharski explained <br />they would not be able to get down to the required nitrogen levels, and there is a current <br />contested hearing coming up on this. <br /> <br /> Commissioner Fritz asked why DEM’s costs would double, and Director Kucharski said <br />it would cost a significant amount of money to upgrade the treatment systems. The Kealakehe <br />R-1 system cost $54 million. DEM is using effective low-tech systems now because the climate <br />is perfect for them. If they need to go through NPDES permitting, it will cost significantly more <br />because it will require people, equipment, and capital. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />
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