2018-01-29 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes – January 29, 2018 TL: On that note – we have a study also from Kona, which actually tracks with what you’re saying and when it comes to native plants that they found in the rumen studies of these things, I think the highest one was maybe 20% but they averaged around 8 or 9 for the most part. GH: I’m Grayson Hashida. I had a question for Mr. Hoefflinger – in your study – did you see any – back in the 80s and 90s – was there any kind of studies or actual scientific studies that showed causation between the palila bird decrease and the sheep or the feral animals? RH: I’m terribly sorry but I’m getting just about stone deaf – I didn’t catch your question. GH: Back in the 80s and 90s when the court determined that the palila bird decrease was due to the feral animals – was there any research or actual studies or scientific studies that backed that up, as far as that being the cause? RH: I don’t know. I really can’t answer your question. I don’t know what the basis for the court – I know the results of the court action – I know why they did what they did but I don’t know what kind of data was presented to the courts in the original federal court case. GH: Thank you. TL: We have a couple of DLNR / DOFAW type people that might be able to answer that question? MH: Tom, I have a quick question. Do you know the name of the case? WJC: Palila vs. the State of Hawaii... RH: Ah, you want the actual court case? MH: Yeah, like who the parties were? RH: Yeah, I can get it for you... MH: OK. Thank you. I figure we could just take a look at it – I can see if... Yes, thank you. JO: Ah, James, one of the attorneys of record in that case was John Carrol who represented the hunting community during that case before Judge King. JO: It was the Sportsman’s Alliance here... 13