2018-04-05 Hearing Transcript - Kelly & Joanne Jarneski REZ 18-226

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six -acre parcels would be gold if something were to change. Anyway, that's my concern with the messing with agricultural property. Thank you. RAFFIPIY: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a comment on that. I kind of look at it in a different perspective. Right now, we have one family trying to do farming, and I don't know how much they can farm, one family can farm that much of a property, real estate. But, I was thinking like if you have six families, multiply that effort right now by six times. I thought that it would increase the food production by six times, and like Mr. Ikeda said, you know, six acres is a lot of real estate to farm, so that's how I look at it. Thank you, Mr. Chair. CLARKSON: Any other comments or questions for this testifier? No? Thank you very much. Is there anyone else that would like to testify on this matter? Please come forward and be sworn in first. Please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter before the Commission today? PAIK: I do. CLARKSON: Please introduce yourself and proceed. PAIK: Hi, my name is Koohan Paik, and I also didn't come to speak on this, but I was on Kauai for 20 years, and I saw situations like this time and time again, and I don't know if you know what Kauai is like now, but it's a planning commission disaster, and it's because people had entirely good intentions just like these folks do. So, I wonder, if, why not lease the land? Set up arrangements with families and friends because what happened on Kauai time and time again is that as prices skyrocketed and people like Mark Zuckerberg started moving in, which is going to happen here more and more. It's like how can you turn down a million dollars for your six -acre parcel even though your cousin wants to give you payments of $300 a month for the same parcel. Or, what if you sell your parcel to your cousin for whatever, and then prices skyrocket, and that person loses his job. Next thing you know? It's in the hands of a speculator, and that's what happened on Kauai. That's what happened on Maui. And, it all started out with entirely good intentions for food sovereignty, for staying in the family. If you want to stay in the family and with friends, why not lease it? And that way you don't go down that road that there is no turning back. Thanks. CLARKSON: Thank you. If there is no more testimony, I ask for a motion that public testimony be closed. IKEDA: I move that public testimony be closed. CLARKSON: Is there a second? DELA CRUZ: Second. CLARKSON: All those in favor? COMMISSIONERS: Aye. EXHIBIT B 9