2018-04-05 Hearing Transcript - Hu Honua Bioenergy SMA 221 (Partial Remand)

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heated water in itself contaminating the aquifer and then the metals that it picks up. When you're moving millions of gallons a day, you are stripping the metal, okay? From the piping. So, I just want you Commissioners to realize and to think about how important water is to our needs. And, as Gino said, our children are going to be faced with it in the future. Thank you. CLARKSON: Thank you, all. Commissioners, do you have any questions for the initial group of testifiers? If not, please be seated, and we'll call up an additional six people. Where's my glasses? Matt Trask, Cory Harden, Claudia Rohr, George Martin, Steve Johnson, and David Ordenstein. Okay, is George Martin in the building? Apparently not, but for those of you who haven't been sworn in, please raise your right hands. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter before the Planning Commission today? TESTIFIERS: I do. CLARKSON: Thank you. We'll start with the gentlemen on my left, and please introduce yourself and proceed. TRASK: Sure. My name is Matthew Trask, Matt Trask. I live in Pepe`ekeo about a mile from that power plant site. I also happen to be an environmental professional and a noise expert as well as other areas of environmental law. One of which, [inaudible] on almost every environmental law as I'm sure you know is that you examine both the indirect impacts as the direct impacts. Now, here we have some situation where you've been remanded to look at the impacts of something that the Applicant is now saying is not going to happen. Well, if that's not going to happen, something else is, and you know what that is—it's the injections. So, I would think that there would have to be an analysis of that injection because it is an indirect impact of the decision that you're about to make. So, I would like to personally push for a deep analysis especially looking at Clean Water Act, Section 316(a) and (b) and to bring this information forward. And, I wanted to point out to everybody here, I was an electrician for many years. I am pro development for the simple reason that if people don't build things, I don't work. But, what I do with every project I work on is I push to make that project the best project it can be for that project, for the protection of the developers from lawsuits, and for the next project and the next project after that. If you want a good industry, you want good projects. You have to do it right from the beginning, and I'm afraid this project, because we're trying to ram something through that was under an old permit, is not the best way we can do it. And, I understand the constraints of the developer. I understand the need for good jobs on this island. But, for the long term health of the industry, we need to do this right, and the way it's being done is not right. HARDEN: Cory Harden for Sierra Club Moku Loa Group on the impacts on the Outfall. On thisfirst, I want to thank you folks all for your volunteer service, and would you please try to get answers to some questions on this. Is it no action? Is that the correct response? Hu Honua says they're not going to repair or replace, and they believe there will be no impacts so you folks EXHIBIT C 15