2018-04-05 Hearing Transcript - Hu Honua Bioenergy SMA 221 (Partial Remand)

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So, based on my experience and recollection prior to being with Hu Honua, the flume was used basically—that Outfall system was used to discard plant, power plant and the sugar plant refinery wastewater. So you would have the wastewater from the cane washing going down the flume, you would have perhaps bagasse going into that area from the, when it rains, the runoff would go to that Outfall, enter the Outfall or go over the cliff. So, our response in what we're saying is that we're not going to repair it or replace it is that for the industrial wastewater such as that going through the condenser under the turbine, to pull vacumn on the turbine, that is going to be pumped from the supply wells, goes through the hot well under the turbine and what you call non -contact water then reinserted through injection wells. The reference to wastewater treatment is that from the supply wells, we will be doing what you call demineralizing or taking out the hard minerals from the water and using pure water to put back into the boiler. And, then that waste stream is combined to go back in through the injection wells, and that is going to be something like brackish water. So, that is, the comment is that, if I understand what the last testifier mentioned was that we're not going to fix the Outfall, yes, that is not the plan, but we're still going to use it. Yes, we're still going to use it. So when I AUDIENCE MEMBER: —There it is! There it is right there! HALL: Excuse me. Please LEE: So, when I say we're going to use it, we're talking about what I mentioned earlier, as an on-site disposal for development -generated water. In other words, that's rainwater. So, based on the plant being built, if there is a hardened surface or a bigger, larger roof being built, you have less permeable area on the ground, so that additional generated runoff from storm water, rainwater will be taken care of on-site so there will be no incremental increase in any rainwater being disposed through that Outfall. And, that's, that's what's the plan. CLARKSON: Thank you. Any further questions, Commissioner Ikeda? LEE: Mr. Yamamoto would also like to comment. YAMAMOTO, W.: If I could just add briefly Chair—Wil Yamamoto on behalf of Hu Honua. So, you know, I heard the commentary from behind us when Mr. Lee said that we are going to be using that Outfall, but we should clarify what that use is. AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes, you should. ROHR (from audience): It doesn't matter. YAMAMOTO, W.: And, it is important because originally the plan was, so this was back in 2010, 2011, when this Commission made its original decision, the plan was to use the Outfall for the specific purpose of discharging water, plant water or water that was generated from plant operations—in other words, boiler water, any wastewater that might have occurred as a result of running the plant and, you know, of course it would be treated and then it would go out of the Outfall. That was the original plan. And, then in 2010, with, you know, we were surprised when that Outfall had collapsed, so then the question was at the time during the course of this EXHIBIT C 20