2018-04-05 Hearing Transcript - Hu Honua Bioenergy SMA 221 (Partial Remand)

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The only water that will be there that I understand, the only water that will be going through that will be whatever that is settling off the roof and all that. YAMAMOTO, W.: That is correct, and only in the volume and quantities that existed before our new development. So, in other words, any development generated storm water is going to go into on-site disposal by the use of drywells, and we're I believe we already obtained approval from the Department of Public Works which is the appropriate agency that issues the permits for that. With respect to pre -development water, natural rain water that continues to flow off the pall whether it's at Outfall [00] 1 or a hundred yards down the cliff, all that water is natural rainwater that's flowing off the pali. CLARKSON: If there are no further questions at this time, we'll thank the testifiers all of you and I'll ask for a motion that public testimony be closed. RAFFIPIY: Can I ask one more question? I wanted the—not this group but the first group. I think was David—David? You said you saw oil and stuff seeping through the ground, seeping out through the water into the ocean. ORDENSTEIN: I deal with that daily from where I live. RAFFIPIY: What area are you, are we talking about? ORDENSTEIN: Pepe`ekeo Point off of Beach Road. RAFFIPIY: Is it coming from this plant or coming from the? ORDENSTEIN: It's coming from underground. RAFFIPIY: It's from underground. ORDENSTEIN: And, I believe it comes from the shortsightedness of who left that property. They buried, they broke everything down, and buried it, and they left it. Okay, there's a sugar plantation there before, and the area where I'm at was where there was about 10 or 12 homes, and they just, they just busted it down and buried it. And, there was engines. There was cars. There was all kinds of stuff that they justor equipment, probably not cars, but equipment and everything. They buried it, and it comes out. It leaches out. I mean, there's a place I want to work on right now. I cannot because the underground water just keeps on coming because we've had all this rain. And, it comes out orange. It comes out oily. It comes right into the ocean, because where I am at, there's a stream, and that stream is dry but underground, it comes out. It just—the top is fine, looks all good, but the bottom, it just keeps on coming leaching out. And, the `opihi on that side, not too much. The `a`ama crab on the other side get plenty, but they stay away from all that stuff that's coming, and it's justI see it. I don't, you know, you can go make all the stuff, all the kind reports or all this reviews you want, but I see it every day. I live with it. I don't know if it's from them, but I know it's coming from underground, and if you EXHIBIT C 22