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catchment basin, detention basin, turning it into a sedimentation basin and using that Outfall for <br />a storm water drainage system. There's no permits. No shoreline setback variance. It's a new, <br />it's new development in the SMA, and so are the injection wells. You know nothing about them. <br />They haven't told you anything. <br />[Clapping in audience.] <br />CLARKSON: Please, remember this is discussion on Ms. Rohr's petition for standing in a <br />contested case hearing. I am not going to get into the merits of the matter before us. We'll have <br />one more rebuttal from each of the parties, and then we'll have public testimony if anybody <br />wants to testify about this petition only, not about the agenda item itself. Please proceed. <br />KIM: Ronald Kim, Deputy Corporation Counsel on behalf of the Planning Director. You know, <br />I just would like to remind the Commission that what is on the agenda today, what is here before <br />you today is the same SMA permit. Now, the letter from Mr. Lee, it did appear to propose some <br />changes or some difference to what was previously before the Commission, but that, what <br />procedurally you are here before is still the same SMA application, same permit. Now, if you <br />choose to deny the permit, then you might have a new application, new permit, and then that <br />would open the door for parties to intervene. But, what is here before you today presently is the <br />remand from the ICA on the same SMA permit application. Thank you. <br />YAMAMOTO, W.: Wil Yamamoto here on behalf of Hu Honua Bioenergy, LLC. Very briefly, <br />I'd like to address Ms. Rohr's comment, and actually one comment from the Planning <br />Department. <br />I wanted to clarify that Mr. Lee's February 27, 2018, letter to the Planning Commission was very <br />specific and very narrow. It was specifically addressing the single issue on remand from the ICA <br />and, you know, the ICA was looking at, asking the Planning Commission to specifically address <br />the impacts to the public shoreline related to any repairing or replacing of Outfall 001. In that <br />letter, we referred to essentially two things that were kind of alternatives to the use of <br />Outfall 001. One was underground injection control wells, UIC wells, and that is not new. That <br />was discussed during the original 2010 contested case; and, in fact, the Planning Department <br />confirmed that in its December 27, 2017 letter. So, we referenced that in our letter, and in <br />addition, the use of on-site disposal to take care of the development generated storm water, that's <br />something we mentioned in the letter. That also is not new. In fact, this Planning Commission <br />issued in its Decision & Order back in 2011 a line item that talks about us doing on-site disposal <br />to address water discharge and that's what we're complying with. <br />So, our position is that nothing is new that we've introduced by way of that letter and that it is <br />inappropriate for Ms. Rohr to participate as a party in this contested case hearing which has its <br />origins back in 2010. <br />CLARKSON: Thank you. At this time, since all the parties have had their say, we'll hear from <br />public testimony, if any. Please be seated. And, does any member of the public wish to testify? <br />Now, this is strictly on the matter of standing according to Planning Commission rules for <br />EXHIBIT C <br />5 <br />