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WATANABE: Jeff also wanted me to remind you that in Exhibit 11 it shows a letter that the <br />presentation was made back in 2015, before the Hawaiian Paradise Park Association. They had <br />not commented on this particular application though. <br />MARTIN: Did you receive that letter? <br />WATANABE: It was part of your application. We included it as an exhibit. <br />MARTIN: Oh, okay. <br />RAFFIPIY: I have a question, Mr. Chairman. If you relocate that pole to one of these parks, <br />how many customers you gonna lose and how many customers you gonna gain? What is the net <br />gain or net loss if you relocate to one of these? <br />MARTIN: Well actually, it's—it's either we cover the whole neighborhood or we cover, you <br />know, I think we're moving it four streets so there would be like four streets in the middle. So <br />figure four streets. We got Railroad—so somewhere around 16th Avenue, that area, and then <br />four streets past that would probably have poor coverage. <br />RAFFIPIY: So how many household, Ma'am, will you be losing or gaining. I'm kind of <br />interested to know what would be the net loss or net gain as far as households in that area. <br />MARTIN: You know, I don't know because I don't know if all of these are Verizon customers, <br />and I don't know how many homes are built, and there's just a lot of things I don't know. <br />RAFFIPIY: So, that's why it's just area coverage is the one that you're talking about. <br />MARTIN: It's just, yeah right. <br />RAFFIPIY: Thank you, Ma'am. <br />MARTIN: I also wanted to explain to you why we came to this. I know that Lauri DeAguiar <br />had explained that she had talked to me. I gave you a letter and the reason why it was placed so <br />close to their property is because they asked me to put it there. They asked me to put it there. <br />We discussed giving them money to use their driveway for an easement access. They wanted it <br />there because of security. They wanted it because of security, so I attached, for your <br />information, the drawings that were provided to the DeAguiar's back in 2015 which shows the <br />driveway, their driveway being used as the easement access. I've also given you the letter where <br />I sent the easement document to them along with the subordination agreement. They decided not <br />to sign that easement access and so we re -planned and brought the driveway in on 21st Street, but <br />we planned it there and they did have knowledge about it and there was no talk of a 20 -foot cell <br />tower. I would've never said that because I know, I've been doing this for 20 years now and I <br />know that we have to be above the tree line. <br />CLARKSON: Okay, thank you. Does any commissioner have any questions for any of the <br />testifiers? Last chance. <br />EXHIBIT B <br />17 <br />