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character, rural character, views, it's only after they're impacted, like I have lots of great <br />examples. Waipi`o Valley Lookout. There was, it used to be pastures and then the lookout. <br />Now, you have humongous homes impacting that whole gateway to the thing. If you drive <br />through, on Hamakua and we have a subdivision there in across World Botanic[al] Garden. <br />That, in my mind, was a mistake because the impact of the experience of driving Hamakua and <br />then seeing this right on the side of the road just changes the feeling, the continuity of the <br />agriculture. And, so, we have stuff like at Ninole right on the cliffs. <br />And, then so, you know, these are some of the examples, and we've tried to address them in <br />ways to actually move the, move it forward, and I think the plan is not perfect, but in my mind, I <br />think it's very well crafted. The County Planning Department has stepped to the plate. They had <br />to take over from the consultant team, and they have listened and incorporated the changes, and <br />we have I think pretty clear ideas of what we need to do to improve it, addressing questions like <br />what David's bringing up because I have very specific things that I would like to see that would <br />address his concerns but also the broader community good in terms of views are important. You <br />know, driving up and seeing the coast rather than a bunch of Podocarpus hedges to the coastline <br />as well as having sweeping views up the gulches to Mauna Kea. Those are important. You <br />know, that's what the tourists come for. That's what people here, you know, enjoy, and, but <br />once it's gone, it's gone, you know, and it's very easy to have those things deteriorate and <br />degrade. And, then once you open that floodgate—and we don't want to be Oahu, we don't want <br />to be Kauai, we don't want to be Maui. Beautiful places, but Hamakua, Big Island, Ka`u <br />coastline, we are blessed. <br />So, anyway, those are some of the things that I, you know, observed during the process. We <br />have some contentious issues that were kind of publicized probably unneeded, but, you know, <br />like in the Hakalau Point, and that's why Susan and the community here is very active and, you <br />know, in terms of land use and trying to provide guidance for future land use changes and zoning <br />changes, and that was an issue that came up, but if we stay true to our, the input that we got from <br />the community to protect and enhance our cultural heritage, our ecological, sensitive areas, all of <br />those things. And, so, you know, somebody's got to draw the line, and we want to draw the line. <br />RAFFIPIY: Well, sir, I'd like to thank you and your Steering Committee and the community of <br />Hamakua for the work that you put into this. A few weeks ago when I got my book, I was <br />reading it and go through `em, and it's kind of—it's impressive. It's impressive, and it talks to <br />the many hours that you guys, that you spent on crafting and drafting this, you know, this <br />proposal that you have here. So, congratulations. Thank you very much for all that work that <br />you guys put in. So, thank you. <br />CLARKSON: Excuse me, thank you, the four of you, and I'd like to call up if there are no <br />further questions which I don't think they are. I'd like to call up the next four testifiers, please. <br />That would be Susan Melow, Francine Roby, Springer Kaye, and Glenn Carvalho. Please raise <br />your right hands. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter before the Windward <br />Planning Commission? <br />TESTIFIERS: I do/yes. <br />EXHIBIT A <br />13 <br />