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MARTIN: We're designing this as a monopole, and those typically have huge caissons and <br />don't typically fall over. <br />CLARKSON: Are they lava flow resistant? <br />MARTIN: No, we lost our Kapoho site. <br />CLARKSON: Well, my point exactly. I know if a lava flow came through this neighborhood, it <br />would not be good for the neighborhood, but it would be especially bad if the edge of a flow <br />knocked over this tower and it fell on an otherwise unaffected home. Just saying. <br />RAFFIPIY: That's exactly what I was gonna, I was leading up to. You know, I respect the, you <br />know, the design and all that, but, you know, we can never tell. You know, we get a lot of active <br />earthquakes over here. And what if the thing is approved and then just falls over. I don't know. <br />MARTIN: That's true for other structures, though, too. <br />RAFFIPIY: Right. <br />CLARKSON: Well, it is, but other structures aren't coming to us asking for a Use Permit that is <br />entirely optional and not required to be granted under existing law so. <br />MARTIN: I understand. <br />CLARKSON: Okay. Are there any further questions at this time? We can follow up later after <br />testimony. Okay, thank you very much. Please don't leave. We have one person scheduled to <br />testify today. Utae Suzuki, would you please? <br />SUZUKI: Hello? [Testing mic. ] <br />CLARKSON: Would you please raise your right hand? Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth <br />on this matter before the Commission today? <br />SUZUKI: Yes. <br />CLARKSON: Thank you. Please proceed. <br />SUZUKI: Okay, I am surprised that my neighbors didn't show up. You know, they are kind of <br />very disgusted about whole thing, and I know I cannot speak for them, but they said, you know, <br />they are not going to listen to us. They [inaudible] the County, you know, I hope not, but that's <br />why I'm here. <br />So, my residence in HPP sits diagonally across from Mark's place. The, on Railroad, Mark is on <br />the right uh, left. Mark and Aida. Aida is his mother, diagonally across from him. So, it's, <br />you know, 500 yards. <br />EXHIBIT A <br />9 <br />